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StreetOutlawLS3 · 02-19-2017, 01:30 PM

Just as title says what are your thoughts on a 416 using ls3 block all forged internals, running a f1x pro charger? I'm looking for 1000+ hp would be happier with 1100+ hp.

Would the ls3 block hold up well? I'm sure it would be smarter to go with a LSX block but would love to keep the ls3 block and run the procharger.

AGP Turbo · 02-19-2017, 02:27 PM

F1X can totally make 1100whp BUT that is questionable on an aluminum block. I would say "holds up well" at about 1000-1050whp. But sure to overdrive it and wastegate for boost control. This will get torque up and have it in the power better every time you shift. That's one of the big complaints on centri M/T cars.

bayarea408 · 02-19-2017, 02:27 PM

if i were you and had plans for over 1k regularly. Iron Block/ Twin Turbo. Most turbo kits these days can be had cheaper then blower kits, and make more power. If you use certain controllers you can boost by gear adjust it all to work properly.

In my opinion if you stay under 1k hp forged Aluminum ls3 is ok.

Over 1k hp I would consider an Iron block

DarkCry956 · 02-19-2017, 04:56 PM

Rdunn had a similar setup for a long time. 429ci stock block on a 4l80. 1000+hp

ecreps · 02-19-2017, 07:03 PM

What heads are you planning to run? I think you will want some pretty thick heads if sticking with a 4-bolt setup.

Other than that it should run well.

Bildo · 02-19-2017, 08:34 PM

I am doing similar right now, but not a stock block, ERL 427 w/F1A planning on going to the F1X once a transmission and rear end setup are in the budget.

DYNAMIC RON · 02-20-2017, 12:59 PM

My Scat crank is flexing @ aprox 800 Crank HP. #2 & #4 main bearings (ACL). Nothing broke, just tore it down for inspection. If you dont mind the weight i would suggest a iron block.

hillshooter · 02-20-2017, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DYNAMIC RON

My Scat crank is flexing @ aprox 800 Crank HP. #2 & #4 main bearings (ACL). Nothing broke, just tore it down for inspection. If you dont mind the weight i would suggest a iron block.

is that with ARP on the mains? that seems like a very attainable HP on a stock short block, let alone a built one.

realcanuk · 02-21-2017, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Bildo

I am doing similar right now, but not a stock block, ERL 427 w/F1A planning on going to the F1X once a transmission and rear end setup are in the budget.

Hope you got your engine, or at least ordered it. ERL is exiting the car engine business as of now.

EvilZL1 · 02-21-2017, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by realcanuk

Hope you got your engine, or at least ordered it. ERL is exiting the car engine business as of now.

Wait what? Where are you reading this???

realcanuk · 02-21-2017, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by EvilZL1

Wait what? Where are you reading this???

Look at their website....

EvilZL1 · 02-21-2017, 11:25 AM

Just did wow. Didnt think that would happen. Guess dart block it will be from now on

Bildo · 02-21-2017, 12:33 PM

Yeah I have had possession of my block for over a year, but definitely not happy they are closing. Found out yesterday they sent me the wrong sized ARP bolts for the top of the cylinder in the head stud kit. Called them and they insisted I send back the wrong ones before they would send me the correct ones. Kinda pissed me off I spent 11k on a shortblock including the head stud kit and they want to play the game instead of give me what I paid for over $24 worth of bolts on a 11k sale.

Rdunn · 02-22-2017, 09:12 AM

Only thing I did to mine was pin the mains and ran ARP everything. stock block held great at 1100hp and is still running strong 3 years later ( just in a different car)

the F1X is a great blower that will handle anything you want to throw at it. I have a LSX block in mine now and running 30 pounds of boost thru it with the X

02-19-2017, 01:30 PM	#1
StreetOutlawLS3 Drives: 2013 Camaro SS LS3 Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Hallettsville, TX Posts: 82	Thoughts on F1X 416 M6 build? Just as title says what are your thoughts on a 416 using ls3 block all forged internals, running a f1x pro charger? I'm looking for 1000+ hp would be happier with 1100+ hp. Would the ls3 block hold up well? I'm sure it would be smarter to go with a LSX block but would love to keep the ls3 block and run the procharger. __________________ 2013 1SS LS3 M6 - ZL1 (3.73) differential kit - Street Slayer Twin Disc - Cam Motion cam 228/236 spec'd by Patrick Guerra - C5r timing chain - manton pushrods - BTR dual .660 valve springs - TSP 1"&7/8 LT's(no cats) - 3" Hooker Black Heart axle back with 4" quad tips - MGW flat stick shifter - tuned by Patrick Guerra @LSX performance dyno tuning - 305/45-18 MT ET Street

02-21-2017, 11:25 AM	#12
EvilZL1 Snake Eater Drives: 2012 AGM ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: TN Posts: 2,737	Just did wow. Didnt think that would happen. Guess dart block it will be from now on __________________ Build Thread: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...95#post8351295 Make sure you don’t forget to subscribe to my channel! More content on the way. Like, share with your friends https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9Z...sP2wjsLLFeP1zQ Follow me on instagram: http://www.instagram.com/snkeatr/

02-22-2017, 09:12 AM	#14
Rdunn Really, Really Fast Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: St.Louis,Mo Posts: 686	Only thing I did to mine was pin the mains and ran ARP everything. stock block held great at 1100hp and is still running strong 3 years later ( just in a different car) the F1X is a great blower that will handle anything you want to throw at it. I have a LSX block in mine now and running 30 pounds of boost thru it with the X __________________ Procharger F1X, TH400, E85, CBI Street Cars, DSX Tuning, 1300whp

02-19-2017, 02:27 PM	#2
AGP Turbo Drives: All things Turbocharged Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: AZ Posts: 1,199	F1X can totally make 1100whp BUT that is questionable on an aluminum block. I would say "holds up well" at about 1000-1050whp. But sure to overdrive it and wastegate for boost control. This will get torque up and have it in the power better every time you shift. That's one of the big complaints on centri M/T cars.

02-19-2017, 02:27 PM	#3
bayarea408 Drives: T Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: CA Posts: 803	if i were you and had plans for over 1k regularly. Iron Block/ Twin Turbo. Most turbo kits these days can be had cheaper then blower kits, and make more power. If you use certain controllers you can boost by gear adjust it all to work properly. In my opinion if you stay under 1k hp forged Aluminum ls3 is ok. Over 1k hp I would consider an Iron block

02-19-2017, 04:56 PM	#4
DarkCry956 Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Texas RGV Posts: 794	Rdunn had a similar setup for a long time. 429ci stock block on a 4l80. 1000+hp

02-19-2017, 07:03 PM	#5
ecreps Drives: 2014 1LE, 1996 z28 Join Date: May 2015 Location: United States Posts: 172	What heads are you planning to run? I think you will want some pretty thick heads if sticking with a 4-bolt setup. Other than that it should run well.

02-19-2017, 08:34 PM	#6
Bildo Drives: 2012 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Omaha, Nebraska Posts: 1,677	I am doing similar right now, but not a stock block, ERL 427 w/F1A planning on going to the F1X once a transmission and rear end setup are in the budget.

02-20-2017, 12:59 PM	#7
DYNAMIC RON Drives: 2015 CAMARO SS RS 1LE Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: MICHIGAN Posts: 4	My Scat crank is flexing @ aprox 800 Crank HP. #2 & #4 main bearings (ACL). Nothing broke, just tore it down for inspection. If you dont mind the weight i would suggest a iron block.

02-21-2017, 12:33 PM	#13
Bildo Drives: 2012 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Omaha, Nebraska Posts: 1,677	Yeah I have had possession of my block for over a year, but definitely not happy they are closing. Found out yesterday they sent me the wrong sized ARP bolts for the top of the cylinder in the head stud kit. Called them and they insisted I send back the wrong ones before they would send me the correct ones. Kinda pissed me off I spent 11k on a shortblock including the head stud kit and they want to play the game instead of give me what I paid for over $24 worth of bolts on a 11k sale.