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Old 07-14-2012, 01:18 AM   #29
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Thought it was a stock race? GT500 on slicks vs. ZL1 on stock tires
look at the trap speed difference. the tires mean nothing.
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Old 07-14-2012, 01:47 AM   #30
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2/3 or first 2? Did ZL1 win ANY????
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Old 07-14-2012, 02:09 AM   #31
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look at the trap speed difference. the tires mean nothing.
Seriously. A 13 mph differnce is beyond huge. On the street it would be rediculous. That is like a new 5.0 racing a c6 z. Yuck.
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Old 07-14-2012, 06:33 AM   #32
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I love the ZL1 but that's a embarrassment . My ws6 Trans Am ran 13.1@109 and this car with over 250 more hp can only run 2 mph faster? I dont care if you miss three gears and cant figure out witch pedal is the gas you should still run better then this.
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Old 07-14-2012, 06:58 AM   #33
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look at the trap speed difference. the tires mean nothing.
Exactly! The 1/8 mile mph on that second pass at 7.62 difference and 1/4 at 13.23 mph difference won't be made up with sticky tires.
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Old 07-14-2012, 07:00 AM   #34
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I cut 1.9s on my Hankook Evos, and these tires are shit. A 1.94 with a DR is terrible.
and I could only imagine what it would be on stock tires. Track prep may have sucked too.

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look at the trap speed difference. the tires mean nothing.
Sure... for trap speeds. But not for the race.

Showing up w/ DR's just made any stock for stock analysis worthless. We all know the GT500 is faster.
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Old 07-14-2012, 07:26 AM   #35
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Seriously. A 13 mph differnce is beyond huge. On the street it would be rediculous. That is like a new 5.0 racing a c6 z. Yuck.
From a roll yes but judging by the 60ft he had with dr's I would only assume it would be much worse on the street with stock tires, I can't wait to see some dig races(in mexico)with a auto(zl1) vs the gt500.
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Old 07-14-2012, 07:29 AM   #36
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Run #1 GT500: 2.229 60ft, 8.007@91.81 1/8th, 12.136@122.01 1/4
ZL1 2.333 60ft, 8.572@89.12 1/8th, 12.941@112.10 1/4

Run #2 GT500: 1.947 60ft, 7.622@96.54 1/8th, 11.618@124.78 1/4
ZL1 2.203 60ft, 8.466@88.92 1/8th, 12.837@111.55 1/4
Geez, whatever happened to practicing at a Test n Tune? Those are terrible ET's for the ZL1. The driver needs some serious practice. Those are also bad 60-fts for the GT500 considering he had DR's; he needs practice as well.
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Old 07-14-2012, 12:40 PM   #37
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Drag radials are not slicks.
Sorry for not being precise, but they are compared to stock tires.
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Old 07-14-2012, 12:45 PM   #38
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look at the trap speed difference. the tires mean nothing.
Not the point it was billed as stock vs. stock. And if by now there's anyone that doesn't get that the GT500 is quicker...
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Old 07-14-2012, 01:07 PM   #39
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Theres no more sugar coating it, Drs or stock tires. The Mustang is in a class of its own for now. You can slap Drs on a ZL1 it still won't be faster than a GT500. Now pass the kool aid please...
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Old 07-14-2012, 02:02 PM   #40
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gt500 is ~.5 faster than a ZL1. Drag radials cut ~.5

this result should suprise nobody.

truth be told times were at least ~.5 slower for both cars than they should have been. could easlily be track prep.

we have been told all along that a GT500 on dr will be a 10 second car. I have seen 11.2 so at 11.6 is a fast time in comparison to a ZL1 that is stock is slow time for what he brought.

if I showed up on DR in my Z06 and threw down 11.6 I would not be jumping for joy I would be eitehr scratching my head or whining about the track prep.
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Old 07-14-2012, 02:08 PM   #41
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Showing up w/ DR's just made any stock for stock analysis worthless. We all know the GT500 is faster.
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Theres no more sugar coating it, Drs or stock tires. The Mustang is in a class of its own for now. You can slap Drs on a ZL1 it still won't be faster than a GT500. Now pass the kool aid please...
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Old 07-14-2012, 02:16 PM   #42
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This is what happens when a 2012 ZL1 and 2013 ZL1 were built to close together. 2013 ZL1 should have had some improvements.
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