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22385 · 07-10-2017, 08:57 PM

What's up with Chevrolet's crappy clear coat? 20 miutes out of the garage and bird poop etched forevermore? The bird of paradise must love red! I have two other vehicles and the poop fcould stay there for days without a problem! Seriously, is the clear just thin, poor quality, or what? Very disappointed in the product!!!

18LTLoveIt · 07-10-2017, 09:37 PM

Yeah I had a bird poop on my trunk corner, hard as heck to get off, left a mark thru Zaktek & clear coats. What the hell did that bird eat?? Thank heavens it missed my vert roof.

Spurshot · 07-10-2017, 09:44 PM

I had Ceramic Pro nano crystal coating on mine and a crap etched thru. Some crap is just like paint stripper.

InFiD3ViL · 07-10-2017, 10:00 PM

I have at least 5 bird crap etchings on my hood.

I think it sat at the dealer covered in shit before I bought it. 2 of the spots are really bad.

I tried compounding & wet sanding, but they are still there. A couple weeks ago I had fresh crap on my hood. It was seriously like 30 minutes. Meguiars ultimate compound wouldn't even get it out fully. You can still see the ghosting from his ass splatter pattern.

I hate birds.

warnerwh · 07-10-2017, 11:56 PM

You guys are scaring me. On my muscle cars that I try to keep in near new condition I have never had bird poop etch into the paint. On my Explorer it has but I thought that was because of different clear coat on it. Btw the clear on the Camaro is very hard. You can hit it pretty hard with Ultimate Compound and an orbital polisher and not go through the clear. I had a lot of fine scratches on my car which I think were due to going through car washes and I had to really go over them many times. I think I could use a rotary with a wool pad and probably be safe but am chicken. My point being if you use Ultimate Compound you need at least an orbital polisher because by hand will take forever.

STUNNAH · 07-11-2017, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by warnerwh

You guys are scaring me. On my muscle cars that I try to keep in near new condition I have never had bird poop etch into the paint. On my Explorer it has but I thought that was because of different clear coat on it. Btw the clear on the Camaro is very hard. You can hit it pretty hard with Ultimate Compound and an orbital polisher and not go through the clear. I had a lot of fine scratches on my car which I think were due to going through car washes and I had to really go over them many times. I think I could use a rotary with a wool pad and probably be safe but am chicken. My point being if you use Ultimate Compound you need at least an orbital polisher because by hand will take forever.

Ultimate Compound will mess the clear up...Don't ask me how I know...

lbls1 · 07-11-2017, 07:42 AM

Bird poop is a no-no. I carry a squeegee bottle around in all of my cars. You have to get that stuff off the paint immediately. Do not let it sit for days, or you will end up with stained or etched paint. If the etching isn't bad then you can polish it out. The worst case I've seen was actual clearcoat damage that could not be polished out....but that was a severe case of neglect and perhaps an extra potent plot of poop.

ABADZL1 · 07-11-2017, 08:21 AM

A dent guy came out to my house to pop a couple of door dings in the wifes hotwheels Camaro. He had a locally (to me) made chemical that he was using to polish the paint where the dents were. We had a really bad bird crap stain on the hood of the car, I had previously tried several products to buff it out. Nothing would touch it. I showed it to the dent guy and he said "watch this". To my amazement the stain is gone forever. The product he used is called Varigon2. The stuff is made by a guy in Memphis. Look it up and get some.

DonM · 07-11-2017, 08:27 AM

I try to keep my car frequently washed anyway and I keep a load of Meguiar's Ultimate Fast Finish on the paint. I always wash the car immediately, or at least hose off all the poop before going anywhere. Minor water spotting isn't an issue.

I've heard that using a fabric softener/water mix will help dissolve the poop and let it rinse off easier (It works the same with bugs on the front end too).

Moto-Mojo · 07-11-2017, 08:41 AM

I've had -small- etchings disappear after a few hours if I caught them early. On an older GMC I had what I called "eagle s--t" almost burn through clearcoat and paint! Those enzymes are powerful!

Avenging Orange · 07-11-2017, 08:49 AM

I keep mine clean...not anal about it.....butt never had a problem with bird poop. It washes off.

DvKillar · 07-11-2017, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Avenging Orange

I keep mine clean...not anal about it.....butt never had a problem with bird poop. It washes off.

Maybe it is a color thing. My Bright Yellow is very forgiving!

myold88 · 07-11-2017, 09:20 AM

It's more of what's in the bird poop, rather than GM's "crappy clear coat".
And just like others have said you've got to get it off the paint ASAP.

Coleroad · 07-11-2017, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by myold88

It's more of what's in the bird poop, rather than GM's "crappy clear coat".
And just like others have said you've got to get it off the paint ASAP.

+1 it is all about what the bird has been eating. Some will etches the paint in a few minutes. Other can be on for much longer and not damage the paint. Best thing clean it off quickly, and don't park under trees to reduce the odds.

07-10-2017, 08:57 PM	#1
22385 Drives: Camaro 2013 2SS Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Virginia Posts: 47 View My Garage	Bird Poop and Crappy clear coat What's up with Chevrolet's crappy clear coat? 20 miutes out of the garage and bird poop etched forevermore? The bird of paradise must love red! I have two other vehicles and the poop fcould stay there for days without a problem! Seriously, is the clear just thin, poor quality, or what? Very disappointed in the product!!!

07-10-2017, 09:44 PM	#3
Spurshot Drives: 2014 2SS blue Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Socal Posts: 689	I had Ceramic Pro nano crystal coating on mine and a crap etched thru. Some crap is just like paint stripper. __________________

07-10-2017, 10:00 PM	#4
InFiD3ViL Drives: 2010 CGM 2SS/RS LS3 Swapped A6 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Spring Hill, FL Posts: 4,576	I have at least 5 bird crap etchings on my hood. I think it sat at the dealer covered in shit before I bought it. 2 of the spots are really bad. I tried compounding & wet sanding, but they are still there. A couple weeks ago I had fresh crap on my hood. It was seriously like 30 minutes. Meguiars ultimate compound wouldn't even get it out fully. You can still see the ghosting from his ass splatter pattern. I hate birds. __________________ 2010 CGM Camaro 2SS LS3 Swapped A6 - GPI LS3 SS1 .647/.638, (224/237, 112 +4, 7º overlap) on CamMotion 8620 core, BTR Platinum .660" Dual Spring kit w/titanium retainers, CHE bronze trunnion upgrade, stock heads milled @ .015, Melling HV 10296 oil pump, TSP 1-7/8" long tube headers (W/Catless Off-road Pipes), Corsa Xtreme 3" Catback, GPI Ported/Rod Mod Intake, Stage 2 Ported Throttle Body, Vararam OTR CAI, Mike Norris Gen 2 catch can + GM 1LE clean side separator, 160º thermostat - Megan Racing adjustable coilovers (lowered 1.75"), MRR M017 10/11" wheels-Tuned by Ryan @ GPI

07-11-2017, 07:42 AM	#7
lbls1 Drives: 2002 Camaro SS SOM; 2015 Malibu LTZ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 4,022	Bird poop is a no-no. I carry a squeegee bottle around in all of my cars. You have to get that stuff off the paint immediately. Do not let it sit for days, or you will end up with stained or etched paint. If the etching isn't bad then you can polish it out. The worst case I've seen was actual clearcoat damage that could not be polished out....but that was a severe case of neglect and perhaps an extra potent plot of poop. __________________ '02 CAMARO SS SOM; 5.7L LS1/FLS6B '08 TBSS AWD Black Granite Metallic '15 Malibu LTZ 2LZ Turbo *'14 CAMARO ZL1 Blue Ray Metallic*

07-11-2017, 08:21 AM	#8
ABADZL1 ZL1 Pilot Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: TN Posts: 1,670 View My Garage	A dent guy came out to my house to pop a couple of door dings in the wifes hotwheels Camaro. He had a locally (to me) made chemical that he was using to polish the paint where the dents were. We had a really bad bird crap stain on the hood of the car, I had previously tried several products to buff it out. Nothing would touch it. I showed it to the dent guy and he said "watch this". To my amazement the stain is gone forever. The product he used is called Varigon2. The stuff is made by a guy in Memphis. Look it up and get some. __________________ GP Tuning 2.5 Cam, RPS Carbon Twin Clutch, Ported Blower, Kook's Headers, Cold Air Inductions CAI, ID850's, 9.17 Lower, 2.5 Upper, JMS BAP, Pedders Front Radius Arm Inserts, Whiteline Subframe Inserts, Tuned by me with HP Tuners Idle Clip Link...........https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTL8S9eHwbs

07-10-2017, 09:37 PM	#2
18LTLoveIt Drives: 2018 Hyper Blue LT RS Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,474 View My Garage	Yeah I had a bird poop on my trunk corner, hard as heck to get off, left a mark thru Zaktek & clear coats. What the hell did that bird eat?? Thank heavens it missed my vert roof.

07-10-2017, 11:56 PM	#5
warnerwh Drives: 2013 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Salem, Or Posts: 106	You guys are scaring me. On my muscle cars that I try to keep in near new condition I have never had bird poop etch into the paint. On my Explorer it has but I thought that was because of different clear coat on it. Btw the clear on the Camaro is very hard. You can hit it pretty hard with Ultimate Compound and an orbital polisher and not go through the clear. I had a lot of fine scratches on my car which I think were due to going through car washes and I had to really go over them many times. I think I could use a rotary with a wool pad and probably be safe but am chicken. My point being if you use Ultimate Compound you need at least an orbital polisher because by hand will take forever.

07-11-2017, 08:27 AM	#9
DonM Camaro #4 Drives: 2017-Hyper Blue Metallic-2LTmanual Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: NE Ohio (Akron) Posts: 1,210	I try to keep my car frequently washed anyway and I keep a load of Meguiar's Ultimate Fast Finish on the paint. I always wash the car immediately, or at least hose off all the poop before going anywhere. Minor water spotting isn't an issue. I've heard that using a fabric softener/water mix will help dissolve the poop and let it rinse off easier (It works the same with bugs on the front end too). __________________ Don M Supercharged LGX + 6 speed manual = FUN!!

07-11-2017, 08:41 AM	#10
Moto-Mojo Fast Cars and Old Guitars Drives: 2015 2SS RS (L99, baby!) Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: N. CA Posts: 3,974	I've had -small- etchings disappear after a few hours if I caught them early. On an older GMC I had what I called "eagle s--t" almost burn through clearcoat and paint! Those enzymes are powerful! __________________ “I don’t want to belong to any club that would have me as a member.” - Groucho Marx

07-11-2017, 08:49 AM	#11
Avenging Orange Drives: 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Clermont, IN Posts: 3,297	I keep mine clean...not anal about it.....butt never had a problem with bird poop. It washes off. __________________ 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS M6 Black Leather, Sun Roof, OBX Headers, Borla touring axle back, Cold Air Inductions CAI , non synthetic fluids, BMR total bushing upgrade/1" lowering springs, DSE 32mm rear sway bar. GM fe4 shocks/struts/LCA's, AAM 3.91 diff, Vertini RFS1.8 20x9 +30. Conti ExtremeContact Sport 275/35/20. sjm autoprod ABL dash kit. Mike Norris tuned 413/419. Avenging Orange: 43 years of not buying into the Hype........and damn proud of it!! https://youtu.be/9JD9it6SmB8 https://youtu.be/xmelTlEzI34 KICKING CANCERS ASS SINCE 2015!!

07-11-2017, 09:20 AM	#13
myold88 Drives: SUMMIT WHITE 2SS/RS CAMARO Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: 2018: Lakewood Ranch, Fl. Posts: 8,112 View My Garage	It's more of what's in the bird poop, rather than GM's "crappy clear coat". And just like others have said you've got to get it off the paint ASAP. __________________