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An LS3 block can take a hell of a lot of boost, the internals...no idea yet, 5-7 psi should be safe, you get a couple more over that and that's pushing it. All engines are going to be different, and there's always going to be some jerk that can run 3 more psi than everyone else and still be ok, if someone runs 2 psi less than his, their engine is going to go poof.
I didn't give you a solid answer, because I have no idea, but I know what's a good idea and what's not, so don't push it over 6psi until everyone and their grandma does it too. BUT just keep in mind, "if something can go wrong it will". I guarantee some1 is going to hit 6psi and F up their engine, then going to complain because they voided their warranty and have nothing to drive. |
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That a nice upgrade on HP but how will the rest of the powertrain handle that power, can it handle it....with out damage to something....???? |
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, This is on my 331cid engine and pushing ~12.5lbs of boost. Torque drop off on the big end is minimal and if you notice, the HP was still climbing when I let out of it at 6250. Those curves are quote a bit different than these: What you don't see is the amount of heat being generated. The TVS (Roots) is going to produce a greater charge temperature per pound of boost than the twin screw. If you configured both blowers to produce 20lbs of boost, the TVS would proably see about 18,000rpm and a discharge temp of about 340 degrees whereas the twin screw would only need about 12,700 to produce the same 20lbs of boost and have discharge temps somewhere around 282 degrees. Not only does the twin screw incur less parasitic loss (about 147hp is need to turn the TVS at 20lbs vs. the twin screw's 110hp) but it requires less rpm to do it with a significantly reduced inlet temperature. These are pretty much guesses on my part, but I think if you did a comparison of the two, the data would hold up for the most part. |
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05-27-2009, 02:49 PM | #51 |
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05-27-2009, 02:54 PM | #52 |
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I read that the tranny should hold up to about 600 BHP and the rear end was good for 650. The clutch is likely a different story, but that's not a biggie. I'd be a little more worried about the driveshaft and axles. Still, it doesn't sound like these power levels are really going to destroy the drivetrain so far. We'll find out
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What are your discharge temps at 12 psi with that bell blower?? Spinning a 2300 in exess of 25K + RPM we never saw temperatures above 40* over ambient. In other words on a 100* day the discharge temps were 140 * +/- 10*. That being said, at 8 psi on my 1900 I NEVER see anything over 25-30* ambient. As for the parasitic loss, if you can explain to me how you are able to unload the screw and make it as efficient at the Maguson @ highway speeds it would be great. A screw compressor by definition is a COMPRESSOR and is ALWAYS compressing. There is NO way it can be bypassed and there is no way it can possibly be cooler due to the simple fact that is always compressing the air. As for your comment about a comparison, I would LOVE to do that. I have the engine, the dyno cell and the staff.....Bring the blower, the magazines and the beer and I am game. |
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[QUOTE=Kevin@Lingenfelter;522865]The Lingenfelter 2010 Camaro SS with Magnuson's MP2300 supercharger kit, modified air box with stock air filter, Lingenfelter 100 mm mass air sensor, 100 mm secondary zip tube, stock exhaust manifolds and Corsa's prototype full cat back exhaust system made 532 rwhp. See the dyno graph below.
Package Details When Lingenfelter installs the Magnuson supercharger system we upgrade several components from the base Magnuson kit for better performance and reliability. Each car also gets Lingenfelter PCM programming that lets you benefit from the experience LPE has gained from installing hundreds of supercharger systems since 2001 when we first started offering the Magnuson superchargers as a package. Package includes: - TVS2300 intercooled supercharger system - Black powder coated finish - Based on OEM Eaton supercharger unit - Properly sized fuel injectors - Fuel system upgrades - 160 Degree thermostat - Boost bypass controller - Kenne Bell Boost-a-pump fuel pump voltage booster - Lingenfelter High Flow Air Intake - Professional installation, testing and calibration - Chassis dyno report before & after installation - Excellent drivability, highway mileage not adversely affected - Lingenfelter 3 year/ 36,000 mile warranty - Lingenfelter fender badges - Lingenfelter certificate of authenticity Package price - $10,995.00 Optional Items Corsa stainless steel cat back exhaust - Price TBA How come I'm not seeing anything powder coated black in the photos? Or what exactly gets powder coated black is what I'm asking. I'm very interested in this and maybe if I can talk the Mrs. into spending the cash on it I would contact Lingenfelter in a heartbeat.
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I like it. I think a cross-country road trip is in my future...
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