Clutch pedal spring?

[Da Mammer]

I went the opposite direction. I actually added the Lingenfelter return spring on top of the stock. When you start making serious power, and are driving hard the clutch fluid starts to heat up and when you let up on the clutch the pedal won't come up the whole way. Your pedal travel will cut in about half with each shift, to the point the pedal travel is about 2-3 inches instead of the normal foot or so. The engagement point changes each time too. It makes it really difficult to change gears properly and wears hard on clutch parts. That's why that spring is there to help. If anything I want a stronger spring. But if you aren't making big power or driving hard, and just kind of cruise around it may not ever be an issue for you, but for the power junkies I'd highly recommend keeping it.

[blazerk5]

Originally Posted by blazerk5

How many of you have removed your clutch pedal return/overcenter spring?

I have and the clutch feels real now.

Tim

This is my question. Please only answer if you have removed the spring.

Tim

[Stealthpanda]

Originally Posted by blazerk5

This is my question. Please only answer if you have removed the spring.

Tim

[McRat]

A clutch return spring stops you from running weight on your throwout bearing the whole time you are driving if you rest your foot on the pedal.

This is true on all cars.

Remove it, and it's possible your throwout bearing will not live as long.

[shrinkdoc]

Originally Posted by blazerk5

How many of you have removed your clutch pedal return/overcenter spring?

I have and the clutch feels real now.

Tim

There is another post here saying dont do it because it can cause your clutch to slightly drag causing premature wear.

[invaderzim]

Originally Posted by blazerk5

This is my question. Please only answer if you have removed the spring.

Tim

Originally Posted by shrinkdoc

There is another post here saying dont do it because it can cause your clutch to slightly drag causing premature wear.

Dude. Like seriously. The whole point of this thread was to get yes answers. Get it together, man. Don't bother him with your opinions and/or facts on the matter....

[blazerk5]

Thank you. That is what i am looking for.

I can not believe how much better my car drives now. I never rest my foot on the clutch, no issues there. Wish the aftermarket would come up with a new design.

Tim

[Stealthpanda]

... but he put the rolleyes emoticon after what he said... did you not notice?

[Baer383]

Originally Posted by invaderzim

Dude. Like seriously. The whole point of this thread was to get yes answers.

That's Fvcking stupid.

[Hooper]

Originally Posted by blazerk5

Thank you. That is what i am looking for.

I can not believe how much better my car drives now. I never rest my foot on the clutch, no issues there. Wish the aftermarket would come up with a new design.

Tim

Could not agree more, Tim. I had read up a bunch on this issue over the last year as I hate the way the stock pedal feels. The pedal springiness and stiffness peaks right at the catch point, which makes it very difficult to clutch it smoothly and is also uncomfortable to drive. I could live with it if I had to but its an obviously a GM engineering flaw (just like the worthless radio controls on the right side of the steering wheel rather than the left). I removed my spring today and am astonished how much better the car drives. The clutch pedal still extends to full position easily without the spring, and I don't ride the clutch either so it should not cause any problems. I read that the Vette guys do this first thing on the brand new Vettes, too.

For all of you considering this, try it and you will likely be very happy. You can always put it back on later if you wish.

[Destructo09]

I'm pretty sure the spring is not a return spring. While I was doing my Clutch master cylinder I accidentally pushed the pedal and the spring actually pushed the pedal to the floor. ( At the same time spraying fluid under the hood since I had disconnected the line already ).

So I believe this spring is actually the help reduce the pedal effort. So you really aren't hurting anything by removing it, just making the pedal effort slightly higher. I don't think there's any requirement to have springs even on a hydraulic clutch.

[maddoggyusa]

Originally Posted by Destructo09

I'm pretty sure the spring is not a return spring. While I was doing my Clutch master cylinder I accidentally pushed the pedal and the spring actually pushed the pedal to the floor. ( At the same time spraying fluid under the hood since I had disconnected the line already ).

So I believe this spring is actually the help reduce the pedal effort. So you really aren't hurting anything by removing it, just making the pedal effort slightly higher. I don't think there's any requirement to have springs even on a hydraulic clutch.

if you right, then I guess everybody is removing it to make it "harder"

too funny.

[K1SSRSS]

Originally Posted by maddoggyusa

if you right, then I guess everybody is removing it to make it "harder"

too funny.

He is right is the funny thing that clutch "assist" spring is different than lingenfelter's clutch return spring. Most drag racers will remove the assist spring and install a return spring to aid in proper clutch function.

[Squillo]

Originally Posted by Hooper

I could live with it if I had to but its an obviously a GM engineering flaw (just like the worthless radio controls on the right side of the steering wheel rather than the left).

Do you have to change the station while you're shifting gears? I just don't understand why it's a big deal to have the radio controls on the left or the right side of the steering wheel.