2018 Demon VS .... Anyone? (silence)

[WatchThis]

Originally Posted by bayarea408

Clear as day to me... etched right on the center near the lugs. NOT FOR STREET USE. We get it hard out here in Cali, trust me, you show up to a meet and some prick truck or mustang does a burnout and your camaro is sitting on a drag pack and hard parked. When the cops roll in, I guarantee they are going to Martyr you for everyone to see.

We are just touching base on drag skinny rims, the drag skinny's market is FULL of track use only Bias Ply tires. So unless the demon has a special set of wheels and tires in their skinny combo its not going to be road legal in this configuration.

Completely different wheel bro. Those are the alumastar 2.0's which are a one piece wheel specifically designed for drag use only. It says right on their website. The wheels I were referring to are the ones on my ride along with many other members, the RTS's which are in fact street legal as said on their website and does not state " not for street use" on the wheel since they are a 3 piece modular wheel. You're not comparing apples to apples here dude. Go check out the website and read it for yourself.

The Demon is perfectly street legal in this configuration as long as they used a DOT approved modular wheel (which I don't see them making a mistake there), and a DOT approved radial front runner like the Mickey Thompsons I have myself. The case where the Demon isn't legal would be taking it to the track and running it in the 9's without a cage, window net and driver safety equipment such as a fire suit. But for the street, perfectly fine if you have the self control to keep your foot out of it. I see your point, cops are going to lose their mind if you're at a meet and some idiot is driving like... an idiot but there's nothing to be said when everything is actually legal. This car still has to pass emissions and safety standards just like every other mass produced car or it would have never made it to market.

[bayarea408]

Originally Posted by WatchThis

Completely different wheel bro. Those are the alumastar 2.0's which are a one piece wheel specifically designed for drag use only. It says right on their website. The wheels I were referring to are the ones on my ride along with many other members, the RTS's which are in fact street legal as said on their website and does not state " not for street use" on the wheel since they are a 3 piece modular wheel. You're not comparing apples to apples here dude. Go check out the website and read it for yourself.

The Demon is perfectly street legal in this configuration as long as they used a DOT approved modular wheel (which I don't see them making a mistake there), and a DOT approved radial front runner like the Mickey Thompsons I have myself. The case where the Demon isn't legal would be taking it to the track and running it in the 9's without a cage, window net and driver safety equipment such as a fire suit. But for the street, perfectly fine if you have the self control to keep your foot out of it. I see your point, cops are going to lose their mind if you're at a meet and some idiot is driving like... an idiot but there's nothing to be said when everything is actually legal. This car still has to pass emissions and safety standards just like every other mass produced car or it would have never made it to market.

Learn something new everyday, i was under the assumption that ALL front skinny's were not legal for road use. Seems the companies selling them and the market of non dot tire user's sway me to make this assumption. So apparently if you get the "right combo" of skinny wheel and tire its technically ok to street.

so if i bought the weld skinny i posted with a Hoosier non dot tire, its not legal.

If i buy weld RTS skinny rim and dot tires, its Legal?

[97ChameleonTA]

Originally Posted by bayarea408

Learn something new everyday, i was under the assumption that ALL front skinny's were not legal for road use. Seems the companies selling them and the market of non dot tire user's sway me to make this assumption. So apparently if you get the "right combo" of skinny wheel and tire its technically ok to street.

so if i bought the weld skinny i posted with a Hoosier non dot tire, its not legal.

If i buy weld RTS skinny rim and dot tires, its Legal?

Yup!

[JakeW1990]

Originally Posted by bayarea408

Learn something new everyday, i was under the assumption that ALL front skinny's were not legal for road use. Seems the companies selling them and the market of non dot tire user's sway me to make this assumption. So apparently if you get the "right combo" of skinny wheel and tire its technically ok to street.

so if i bought the weld skinny i posted with a Hoosier non dot tire, its not legal.

If i buy weld RTS skinny rim and dot tires, its Legal?

If it's the same I'm thinking of, yes. I, as well as my brother and his Z06, drive around on our drag-pack, Weld skinnies and Weld rear with DOT MT ET Streets, and DOT fronts. Never pulled over, questioned, bothered. Saves me work when we drive to the dragstrip when we want to go to the strip. Never any concerns when I decide to throw the drag-pack on.

Now, you can't go around turns fast at all cause if you have motion sickness you will get sick. Front of the car wobbles all of the place with these heavy cars. Go in too hard and you'll end up off the road and/or hurt pretty bad. If there is any kind of chance for rain, may as well stay at the house with MT Streets. They literally have 1 water bar about 1/16th wide.

So even though they are DOT approved, there are practical times to use them and then there are suicide attempts.

[JakeW1990]

Originally Posted by JakeW1990

If it's the same I'm thinking of, yes. I, as well as my brother and his Z06, drive around on our drag-pack, Weld skinnies and Weld rear with DOT MT ET Streets, and DOT fronts. Never pulled over, questioned, bothered. Saves me work when we drive to the dragstrip when we want to go to the strip. Never any concerns when I decide to throw the drag-pack on.

Now, you can't go around turns fast at all cause if you have motion sickness you will get sick. Front of the car wobbles all of the place with these heavy cars. Go in too hard and you'll end up off the road and/or hurt pretty bad. If there is any kind of chance for rain, may as well stay at the house with MT Streets. They literally have 1 water bar about 1/16th wide.

So even though they are DOT approved, there are practical times to use them and then there are suicide attempts.

Here is our cars with which I speak.

[bayarea408]

awesome setup's

[Iron Lung Jimmy]

Originally Posted by Royal Tiger

I'm still waiting to hear how the car with 1000hp stands no change against the one with 840hp.

Because all they apparently did was put 1000 HP into the car.

Unless they also did a bunch of suspension work... which I am guessing they did not... good luck launching it. The ZL1 suspension is not designed for weight transfer so, with that much power, traction is going to be hard to come by. It will be very difficult to drive.

The Demon, on the other hand, dead hooks and launches HARD. Dodge's engineers set it up specifically for drag racing and did a damn fine job of it.

Once the ZL1 finds traction it should trap pretty high but the race will probably have been over after 60 feet or so.

[Camaro Dude]

For fυκs sakes, it does wheelies right out of the box, built/assembled on a mass produced, Challlenger assembly line.

'Nuff sed.


Would I trade Sledge in for one? Nope.

Would I like to have one in my garage as part of a collection? Absolutely.

[WoodBoss]

I like the Demon and think it's great that Dodge did this. It raises the bar. This is a great time to live with all these new modern muscle cars out there. After a 35 year lull be glad muscle cars are back better than ever !!! Dodge deserves credit for what they have done.

[sherob]

... Hellcat.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...ws&date=042517

[Wizard1183]

Well NOTHING and I mean NOTHING will surpass the Demon. No production car with runlet 9s or hight 8s. Just not enough money in it and enthusiasm in it. I think they're a bit late to the game. Drag racing is taking a bad seat approach to track cars. I guess Dodge just wants to be king of something while Chevrolet and Ford decided to take on the world (mores with Chevy) in their track packs Like Z/28, ZL-1 and 1LEs

[Camaro Dude]

Originally Posted by Wizard1183

Well NOTHING and I mean NOTHING will surpass the Demon. No production car with runlet 9s or hight 8s. Just not enough money in it and enthusiasm in it. I think they're a bit late to the game. Drag racing is taking a bad seat approach to track cars. I guess Dodge just wants to be king of something while Chevrolet and Ford decided to take on the world (mores with Chevy) in their track packs Like Z/28, ZL-1 and 1LEs

I agree...king of something perhaps...

But what would that Vin Diesel_Dominic Teretto dude have to say about all this?

[15SSRS]

Originally Posted by Wizard1183

Well NOTHING and I mean NOTHING will surpass the Demon. No production car with runlet 9s or hight 8s. Just not enough money in it and enthusiasm in it. I think they're a bit late to the game. Drag racing is taking a bad seat approach to track cars. I guess Dodge just wants to be king of something while Chevrolet and Ford decided to take on the world (mores with Chevy) in their track packs Like Z/28, ZL-1 and 1LEs

Well said. The demon is cool and all, but 125k for straight-line performance that is banned at the drag strip just doesn't make any sense. Aside from "street cred" what would be the point of owning one?

[imaSSnake]

Originally Posted by 15SSRS

Well said. The demon is cool and all, but 125k for straight-line performance that is banned at the drag strip just doesn't make any sense. Aside from "street cred" what would be the point of owning one?

Where are you getting 125k? Also all you need is a roll cage and window net for it to be legal on the drag strip.
I'm not arguing that I want one.