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LS3 SS · 06-20-2010, 05:22 AM

Facepalm.

ObseSSed · 06-20-2010, 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandotron

He overloaded his power steering pump doing a donut and it failed. It might work itself out and it might not. Don't do that.

So the moral of this story is don't do donuts in your new muscle car? Or don't turn the steering wheel while you're doing it? I don't see how he did anything the car is not designed to do? How do I overload my power steering pump?

formare · 06-20-2010, 09:02 AM

If you are driving straight the pump has little or no pressure- so 5000 rpm is no big deal - if you turn the wheel to the lock position at idle you can hear the load on the engine now imagine that load when the pump is turning not at 600 but rather 6000.

So Do a donut don't lock the wheel. Though the design flaw in the dodge would still cause the pump hose to blow because of the extra pressure.

ObseSSed · 06-20-2010, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by formare

If you are driving straight the pump has little or no pressure- so 5000 rpm is no big deal - if you turn the wheel to the lock position at idle you can hear the load on the engine now imagine that load when the pump is turning not at 600 but rather 6000.

So Do a donut don't lock the wheel. Though the design flaw in the dodge would still cause the pump hose to blow because of the extra pressure.

I think I understand. The power steering pump is not well regulated then. Not much is demanded from the pump when going straight so high RPM of the engine does not delivering much from the pump. But when the wheel is turned, the pump has a lot of demand on it, and if the engine is as high RPM there is nothing that regulates what is delivered by the pump other than the engine RPM so there is a potential for damage when it over-delivers so to speak.

ron10 · 06-20-2010, 07:38 PM

when you play,you pay.

ObseSSed · 06-21-2010, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ron10

when you play,you pay.

Sound's like the church I go to.

Russell James · 06-25-2010, 11:36 AM

Your pump took a dump. There is a bulletin on it.

Apparently not the best designed pump in the world. They must have not anticipated high RPM while turning. You'd think something safety related like steering would be a bit more robustly designed, but apparently not.

I had a friend the same thing happened to. He did one donut in a snow covered parking lot and the power steering was toast.

PAUL SS · 06-25-2010, 12:08 PM

I dont think it is ever a good idea to hold the steering wheel all the way left or right against the steering lock...

Blacked Out · 06-29-2010, 09:24 AM

Bottom line is if i didnt wana do burnouts, donuts and what not then I would have gotten a toyota camry..so as long as i have a muscle car i might as well drive it like one

thesnoopster · 06-29-2010, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by LS3 SS

Facepalm.

Yeah what LS3 SS said ..............

TNZ's_Inferno · 06-30-2010, 04:49 PM

From way pat experience in my '69 Z28. Always start the donut from the straight position and turn into it. That way you know exactly where you need the wheels and in complete control of the stunt. Just my two cents worth! ~Tim

Wilburbeest · 07-03-2010, 05:11 AM

Design flaw or not full lock under that much pressure can't be a good idea. Well it never really is unless somehow necessary but especially in that case. I hope you at least got one of the chicks out of it.

06-20-2010, 05:22 AM	#15
LS3 SS Drives: 2010 Cyber Grey Camaro SS (LS3) Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Clarksville TN Posts: 2,275	Facepalm. __________________ GPI SS3 Cam / PRC 255 heads / Forged 376ci bottom / Fore level 2 fuel system / D1SC ProCharger on 12lbs / Alky control dual nozzle / 770 whp / 649 wtq tuned by Ryan Stevens at GPI

06-20-2010, 09:02 AM	#17
formare The Milano Drives: 2017 Firefly ShipWorks Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Chicagoland (Crown Point, IN) Posts: 1,877 View My Garage	If you are driving straight the pump has little or no pressure- so 5000 rpm is no big deal - if you turn the wheel to the lock position at idle you can hear the load on the engine now imagine that load when the pump is turning not at 600 but rather 6000. So Do a donut don't lock the wheel. Though the design flaw in the dodge would still cause the pump hose to blow because of the extra pressure. __________________ My first Love. She was called "Miss Carriage" (still cry when I think about her) 383, Muncie 4 speed, custom linkage mated to hurst short throw shifter.

06-25-2010, 12:08 PM	#22
PAUL SS The Mark of Excellence Drives: 2010 ABM 1SS RS LS3 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Smallest State in the Union Posts: 8,690 View My Garage	I dont think it is ever a good idea to hold the steering wheel all the way left or right against the steering lock... __________________ BMR, CAI, DynoMax, Elite Eng., Hurst, Jannetty, Clear Image Headers & Hi Flow cats, Jet Hot, LSR, TSW, VMax, Vredestein

06-29-2010, 09:24 AM	#23
Blacked Out i luv it wen people stare Drives: 1lt camaro, virctory red Join Date: May 2009 Location: Queens, New York Posts: 34 View My Garage	Bottom line is if i didnt wana do burnouts, donuts and what not then I would have gotten a toyota camry..so as long as i have a muscle car i might as well drive it like one __________________ IN LOVE! 1LT Victory Red, Black Interior Straight Piped K&N Air Charger Automatic Transmission (future mods coming) Ordered May 9 2009 Delievered October 9 2009

07-03-2010, 05:11 AM	#26
Wilburbeest Think With Your Dipstick! Drives: 1997 Camaro Z28 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 185	Design flaw or not full lock under that much pressure can't be a good idea. Well it never really is unless somehow necessary but especially in that case. I hope you at least got one of the chicks out of it. __________________ - Willy 1997 Camaro Z28 (LT1/T56): K&N CAI \| Kooks 1 3/4" LTs \| 3" Custom Duals \| UMI LCAs w/ relocation brackets \| UMI adj. panhard bar \| UMI adj. torque arm \| Koni SA shocks \| Strano Springs \| Ram Powergrip clutch \| Pro 5.0 shifter \| skip shift eliminator kit \| WS6 Store rotors \| Hawk HPS pads

06-20-2010, 07:38 PM	#19
ron10 Drives: 2010 2SS IOM L99 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: LOUISVILLE,KY.. Posts: 7,545	when you play,you pay.

06-25-2010, 11:36 AM	#21
Russell James Drives: '15 SS 1LE, '69 Z28 drag car Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Mich Posts: 4,482	Your pump took a dump. There is a bulletin on it. Apparently not the best designed pump in the world. They must have not anticipated high RPM while turning. You'd think something safety related like steering would be a bit more robustly designed, but apparently not. I had a friend the same thing happened to. He did one donut in a snow covered parking lot and the power steering was toast.

06-30-2010, 04:49 PM	#25
TNZ's_Inferno Tim N Zarin Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Inferno/Blk Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Pascagoula, Mississippi Posts: 33	From way pat experience in my '69 Z28. Always start the donut from the straight position and turn into it. That way you know exactly where you need the wheels and in complete control of the stunt. Just my two cents worth! ~Tim

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