LSA or LS7 for the New 2011 Z28

[asrapid]

How about this?:-)
It is chevy engine
http://www.falconerengines.com/irl_app_1.html

or maybe this
http://www.falconerengines.com/v12_app_1.html

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by Lifted07Sierra

Lease the 2010 then

no thanks. I'd prefer to own it rather then have to give a car back. exactly why I pay on my car and truck. once they are paid off then I get to keep them. plus to I drive waaaaaaaaaayyyy too much to lease. 6 months equals 14,000 miles.

[radz28]

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

no thanks. I'd prefer to own it rather then have to give a car back. exactly why I pay on my car and truck. once they are paid off then I get to keep them. plus to I drive waaaaaaaaaayyyy too much to lease. 6 months equals 14,000 miles.

YIKES!!! I was complaining when I had to DD my '02 to the tune of 12K miles a year. I had nothing to complain about.

I've considered a lease, but I've wanted this car more than any other before. If I can get it the way I'm hoping GM will go, I'll be as happy as can be and won't be getting rid of if for anything. Leasing isn't too bad if you don't like keeping cars. It is wasteful but why finance for six years, only to trade it in in a couple, only to have not paid anything on the principle?... Not only are you in the hole, it'll roll over on the next car. You can find terms on a lease, save money every month, and get a new car every few years.

I'm planning on purchasing my Z28 though

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by radz282003

YIKES!!! I was complaining when I had to DD my '02 to the tune of 12K miles a year. I had nothing to complain about.

I've considered a lease, but I've wanted this car more than any other before. If I can get it the way I'm hoping GM will go, I'll be as happy as can be and won't be getting rid of if for anything. Leasing isn't too bad if you don't like keeping cars. It is wasteful but why finance for six years, only to trade it in in a couple, only to have not paid anything on the principle?... Not only are you in the hole, it'll roll over on the next car. You can find terms on a lease, save money every month, and get a new car every few years.

I'm planning on purchasing my Z28 though

yea well every weekend I'm driving to charlotte and back or goldsboro, myrtle beach or wot not. I bought the truck at the end of june last year and deployed in sept. when I deployed I had 7000 miles on it. today I looked and was sitting over 19000. I drive way too much.

[stovt001]

The sound of the LS7 is something beautiful, and I just love a high output, high winding NA V8. It just seems to be a more pure mechanical greatness, and I love it. Since it is to be killed off, I hope the Z28 has an NA DI Gen V. Given Scott's hinting that they're waiting to put the Z28 on something special to be worthy of the name, count me in to the group thinking they're waiting for the Gen V.

[iPODFAN11]

Originally Posted by Dan

Neither, if it happens it is more likely to get an LS8 and be around 475-500 hp. LS7 is already as good as gone.

+1. My guess is that LS8 would be bits LSA and LS9 put together but with a lesser volume s/charger, not the 1900 or 2300. 475-525hp. LS8 was going to be the "premium zeta engine" so I suspect it would go into a Z/28.

[Cessna510]

Not trying to hate here guys, but lets say the z\28 would come out with 475 would it be worth paying the extra cash for 50ish more hp?The Z needs 550 because as soon as the Z gets 475-500 ford will bump the gt500 up.IMO

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by Cessna510

Not trying to hate here guys, but lets say the z\28 would come out with 475 would it be worth paying the extra cash for 50ish more hp?The Z needs 550 because as soon as the Z gets 475-500 ford will bump the gt500 up.IMO

the Z28 does not need 550 horses. . .if it's not the GT500 fighter. but whatever the GT500 fighter is I say needs a least 500 horses to compete. . .but along with that a price tag cheaper then the GT500. about 4-5k cheaper so you could buy a supercharger for the difference and have over 600 hp at the wheels.

[radz28]

Originally Posted by Cessna510

Not trying to hate here guys, but lets say the z\28 would come out with 475 would it be worth paying the extra cash for 50ish more hp?The Z needs 550 because as soon as the Z gets 475-500 ford will bump the gt500 up.IMO

See that's my whole thing too. IMVHO, I think it is not going to be possible to expect a car that is going to be substaintially enough lighter to bestow the car with handling way better than the SS. So, the only real option may be adding power and trying to minimize the weight within reason. I think this could be changing as we speak though with the cancelation of the BOSS engine from much of the Ford line so maybe Mustang won't even have a competitive model in the power range so there may not be a reason for GM to develope a 550 horse model...

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

the Z28 does not need 550 horses. . .if it's not the GT500 fighter. but whatever the GT500 fighter is I say needs a least 500 horses to compete. . .but along with that a price tag cheaper then the GT500. about 4-5k cheaper so you could buy a supercharger for the difference and have over 600 hp at the wheels.

I can see this point too. The debate of the Z28 being heavier than the SS, having more power and etc., is not the original formula. However, it's already been confirmed it's not dead, therefore, I think it's reasonable not to expect ANOTHER Camaro model, like a ZL1 or what have you. I'm not expecting GM to produce anything like Dodge's track pack or whatever the special drag racing editions are. I could see a 1LE package being available, but that's about it. Of course adding an SC is an option, but I could easily see Z28 turn into a GT car. I've read arguments that we don't need a GT500-fighter because Ford needed it to compete with the 'Vette. I don't know how anyone can compare a Mustang to a 'Vette in any regimin except straighline, but that's what I've read. The price of a GT-type car could easily encroach on the base 'Vette, but a Camaro's a Camaro and a 'Vette's a 'Vette. I happen to prefer a GT-type car - easy for cruising, huge power when you want to get a little frisky, and great handling.

We'll see...

[Captainbob]

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

the Z28 does not need 550 horses. . .if it's not the GT500 fighter. but whatever the GT500 fighter is I say needs a least 500 horses to compete. . .but along with that a price tag cheaper then the GT500. about 4-5k cheaper so you could buy a supercharger for the difference and have over 600 hp at the wheels.

Ok boxmonkey, your kidding me right? Ford dominated the rally track untill the Gen 1 Camaro was introduced with the first high RPM V 8 in which GM/camaro took over the track w/ domination for years over the mustang.. To say the Camaro doesn't need to be a GT500 fighter is to say a fish needs no water

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by Captainbob

Ok boxmonkey, your kidding me right? Ford dominated the rally track untill the Gen 1 Camaro was introduced with the first high RPM V 8 in which GM/camaro took over the track w/ domination for years over the mustang.. To say the Camaro doesn't need to be a GT500 fighter is to say a fish needs no water

I said the Z28 doesn't need to be a GT500 killer. not that GM shouldn't come out with a GT500 fighter.

[BowtieGuy]

Originally Posted by Captainbob

Ok boxmonkey, your kidding me right? Ford dominated the rally track untill the Gen 1 Camaro was introduced with the first high RPM V 8 in which GM/camaro took over the track w/ domination for years over the mustang.. To say the Camaro doesn't need to be a GT500 fighter is to say a fish needs no water

Lol just to point this out, but anyone ever notice how the only times Ford dominates is when they have no competition?

[radz28]

Originally Posted by BowtieGuy

Lol just to point this out, but anyone ever notice how the only times Ford dominates is when they have no competition?

LOL; good point!

[ckellyme3]

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

I said the Z28 doesn't need to be a GT500 killer.

Yes it does.