Possible NEW engines and drivetrains for 7th gen Camaro!!! - Page 4

Red Chief · 12-30-2019, 04:46 PM

AWD electric would be a rocket.

The funny thing is those cars don't have to be quiet. We already accept piped-in engine noise so they could use a recorded track to reflect the RPMs or KV of the motors.

I don't know that's something we would be able to customize, like using the Knight Rider KITT sound if you wanted or if it would be standardized by DOT.

TastyBake · 12-30-2019, 05:56 PM

I'd take the electric first.

Heck, at 3.0 sec, forgetabout all that no-replacement-for-displacement, "I need vibrations on my toochie" stuff.

The 5.5 is my next choice as the S/C at 12 mpg is a pass for me.

Third is the hybrid. At 300 hp and an average (I assume) of 32 mpg, that is doable.

No need for a V6 (and I have one). That's like how trucks used to do back in the day: overlap engine choices to satisfy folks who'd say "I miss my x.xL...Bring it back! Waaa!"

Martinjlm · 12-30-2019, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Chief

AWD electric would be a rocket.

The funny thing is those cars don't have to be quiet. We already accept piped-in engine noise so they could use a recorded track to reflect the RPMs or KV of the motors.

I don't know that's something we would be able to customize, like using the Knight Rider KITT sound if you wanted or if it would be standardized by DOT.

Just give the guys at Harman a call.

HDRDTD · 12-30-2019, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Martinjlm

Just give the guys at Harman a call.

Can they make my 2015 Turbo 2.0 Malibu sound like my ZL1 ??

cellsafemode · 12-31-2019, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TastyBake

I'd take the electric first.

Heck, at 3.0 sec, forgetabout all that no-replacement-for-displacement, "I need vibrations on my toochie" stuff.

The 5.5 is my next choice as the S/C at 12 mpg is a pass for me.

Third is the hybrid. At 300 hp and an average (I assume) of 32 mpg, that is doable.

No need for a V6 (and I have one). That's like how trucks used to do back in the day: overlap engine choices to satisfy folks who'd say "I miss my x.xL...Bring it back! Waaa!"

unless you're talking 32mpg city ...that hybrid isn't doing any better than a much simpler v6. Unless it's got some significantly better 0-60 and quarter mile times.

I tend to prefer all one drive train tech rather than combinations as they tend to create more negatives than positives unless you're only concerned with supplementing the ICE weak spots in performance and nothing else. Though, I could see a market for a hybrid in the form of an ICE generator rather than the motor being connected to the drive train. That way the ice motor can stay in it's most efficient rpm band constantly when in use and last a very long time and you still get the simplified drivetrain of a full electric.

DaveC113 · 12-31-2019, 10:43 AM

The hybrid would have the same power as the 5.5, not just 300 hp.

Also, hybrids get BETTER mileage in city vs highway typically.

The hybrid should be as fast or a little faster than today's SS and use 60% or so less gas, it'll probably also have better weight distribution and a lower center of gravity. Hard to say on weight, but it may be comparable to a V8. The hybrid option may be overall faster that the 5.5 but probably less suitable for longer track sessions.

Number 3 · 12-31-2019, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by HDRDTD

Can they make my 2015 Turbo 2.0 Malibu sound like my ZL1 ??

They actually developed an intake valve that made the 2.0T in the solstice/Sky sound very much like a V8.

Number 3 · 12-31-2019, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Martinjlm

Just give the guys at Harman a call.

The number of cars that have “enhanced” engine noise pumped into the car are just sad.

And to add to the pain are the rules that require EVs to emit some noise at low speed for the blind. I guess kill 2 birds with one stone by having EVs sound like crammed V8s when below 25 mph.

Number 3 · 12-31-2019, 03:13 PM

And this was my idea the first time I heard of regulatory sounds for EVs. But someone stole my idea.

https://youtu.be/4NgSZ8sjDgU

hotlap · 12-31-2019, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 3

The number of cars that have “enhanced” engine noise pumped into the car are just sad.

And to add to the pain are the rules that require EVs to emit some noise at low speed for the blind. I guess kill 2 birds with one stone by having EVs sound like crammed V8s when below 25 mph.

Might as well be entertaining.

https://www.videvo.net/sound-effect/...696301/235900/

lt4camaro · 12-31-2019, 04:09 PM

5.5 NA 500 horse, auto trans RWD for me.

CamaroBody · 12-31-2019, 04:17 PM

i'm ready for a new camaro

we need electric awd versions of chevy performance and a v12

glass roof

rgb star lit interior

massage seats

.

arpad_m · 12-31-2019, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroBody

i'm ready for a new camaro

we need electric awd versions of chevy performance and a v12

glass roof

rgb star lit interior

massage seats

.

you forgot:

champagne cooler

30 cupholders

rear seat entertainment

privacy shades for rear side windows

IOMCamaroSS · 01-01-2020, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Deputy Dog

Who da hell wants all wheel drive in a v8 camaro?

me.

12-31-2019, 10:43 AM	#48
DaveC113 Drives: 2018 Camaro 1SS 1LE Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Front Range, CO Posts: 1,868	The hybrid would have the same power as the 5.5, not just 300 hp. Also, hybrids get BETTER mileage in city vs highway typically. The hybrid should be as fast or a little faster than today's SS and use 60% or so less gas, it'll probably also have better weight distribution and a lower center of gravity. Hard to say on weight, but it may be comparable to a V8. The hybrid option may be overall faster that the 5.5 but probably less suitable for longer track sessions. __________________

12-31-2019, 03:13 PM	#51
Number 3 Hail to the King baby! Drives: '19 XT4 2.0T & '22 VW Atlas 2.0T Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 12,173 View My Garage	And this was my idea the first time I heard of regulatory sounds for EVs. But someone stole my idea. https://youtu.be/4NgSZ8sjDgU __________________ "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley

12-31-2019, 04:17 PM	#54
CamaroBody Drives: Hyper Blue 2SS Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: CA Posts: 1,160	i'm ready for a new camaro we need electric awd versions of chevy performance and a v12 glass roof rgb star lit interior massage seats . __________________ 2SS, Hyper Blue, 8-Speed Automatic, NPP Exhaust, Magnetic Ride Control, Sunroof, Navigation, 5-Spoke Low-Gloss Black Wheels, Black Bowtie Emblems, Cargo Mat/Net Mods: XPEL - Hood, Bumper, Headlights, & Side Mirrors JWM - Side Markers ZL1 Addons - Deluxe Rock Guards & Red Lift Pads GM - Dark Tail Lamps MRR - Gloss Black M017s

12-30-2019, 04:46 PM	#43
Red Chief Drives: 2020 LT1 Black Join Date: May 2013 Location: MO Posts: 562	AWD electric would be a rocket. The funny thing is those cars don't have to be quiet. We already accept piped-in engine noise so they could use a recorded track to reflect the RPMs or KV of the motors. I don't know that's something we would be able to customize, like using the Knight Rider KITT sound if you wanted or if it would be standardized by DOT.

12-30-2019, 05:56 PM	#44
TastyBake Drives: 2011 Camaro 2LT/RS Black Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 973	I'd take the electric first. Heck, at 3.0 sec, forgetabout all that no-replacement-for-displacement, "I need vibrations on my toochie" stuff. The 5.5 is my next choice as the S/C at 12 mpg is a pass for me. Third is the hybrid. At 300 hp and an average (I assume) of 32 mpg, that is doable. No need for a V6 (and I have one). That's like how trucks used to do back in the day: overlap engine choices to satisfy folks who'd say "I miss my x.xL...Bring it back! Waaa!"

12-31-2019, 04:09 PM	#53
lt4camaro Drives: 2021 LT1 10 speed auto Join Date: May 2013 Location: Connecticut Posts: 2,343	5.5 NA 500 horse, auto trans RWD for me.

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