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east TX Muscle cars · 03-11-2013, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by delphigto

So what fuel system are you guys running? Will a bap keep up? Is LMR a decent tuning shop?

on our stg 6 car we recommend a twin intank fuel pump. but it does come with a KB BAP and it will work. but the twin intank is much better and we do this on 95% of our stg 6 builds

yotaman96 · 03-11-2013, 09:53 PM

I just took mine to the dyno a couple of days ago. 718 rwhp on a Dynojet. 93 grade pump gas, ZL1 fuel pump, and MSD BAP.

Chris82xx · 03-11-2013, 11:09 PM

There was a build that came out of ECS, same setup as mine except he used the ZL1 pump with the BAP, He made 800 on his stock block.

Inferno LSX · 03-11-2013, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by HaddadMotorsports

We've got a few LS3's in the low 600rwhp range.
At least one that gets beat up on real good.
No problems yet. But i think its too much, to be considered reliable.

I lost my own stock bottom ended L76 recently with around 550rwhp. But it lasted for 53k miles of some extremely hard use.

It really depends on how efficient the combo is and how its gettin used. A drag car only runs at full throttle for 8-12 seconds, where as a freeway run/road coarse can be much longer.

Thanks
Mike Haddad

That would be me. LOL 634RWHP before the DSS 9" rear end was installed. I don't want to push it any longer. I'm ready for a new motor.

urr2slo · 03-13-2013, 07:22 PM

I've been S/C'ed since 250 miles and at 713 rwhp since 8k and I currently have 61k on a stock bottom end. I have over 40 track days, road course, autocross, standing mile and drag racing as well as it being my daily driver. I have also driven it long distances between Ca, Nv,Az Tx and on occasion when the circumstances presented themselves I have been know to exceed to posted speed limits slightly.
The basic rule of thumb is the stock bottom end will survive up to 800 crank h.p. safely as long as you have it tuned perfectly and can fuel it properly under boost, after that the pistons and rods are junk. I have been on that ragged edge for 61k and I was originally hoping to get 50k out of it. I have already started my new build but now its more of a durability test, I dont think I will put the new motor till it blows or 100k. The way I've been driving lately that will be it just over a year. In the mean time the new motor is just growing stronger.

2010SSRSM6 · 03-14-2013, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by urr2slo

I've been S/C'ed since 250 miles and at 713 rwhp since 8k and I currently have 61k on a stock bottom end. I have over 40 track days, road course, autocross, standing mile and drag racing as well as it being my daily driver. I have also driven it long distances between Ca, Nv,Az Tx and on occasion when the circumstances presented themselves I have been know to exceed to posted speed limits slightly.
The basic rule of thumb is the stock bottom end will survive up to 800 crank h.p. safely as long as you have it tuned perfectly and can fuel it properly under boost, after that the pistons and rods are junk. I have been on that ragged edge for 61k and I was originally hoping to get 50k out of it. I have already started my new build but now its more of a durability test, I dont think I will put the new motor till it blows or 100k. The way I've been driving lately that will be it just over a year. In the mean time the new motor is just growing stronger.

So you just had to push it up again didn't ya.

Every time I get close, you jump out 2 more steps. Thanks a lot buddy. And here I thought I was done with the performance mods.

SSBUSDRVR · 03-19-2013, 03:48 PM

Mid 600's here LS3. 21.8k. Put 93 in it and go. (have changed the oil in it a few times.lol) No issues yet. Knock on wood. Due for a checkup soon.

Alvin@PCMofNC · 03-20-2013, 03:12 PM

There is two in the shop north of 600 rwhp. A C5 LS1 that should make 600 rwhp and one that left a few weeks ago that made 642. I don't expect any to break.

urr2slo · 03-21-2013, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 2010SSRSM6

So you just had to push it up again didn't ya.

Every time I get close, you jump out 2 more steps. Thanks a lot buddy. And here I thought I was done with the performance mods.

Oops, should I not tell you I'm working on a forged stroker in the 428 to 434 cid range then?

I'm coming out for Super Chevy, detuning slightly, and afterwards I'm going thru the entire driveline. New engine, trans upgrade, and complete driveline upgrade, axles, diff, everything. Going to try to win it all on my tired

63k powertrain. Its either going to win it all or blow up trying. Are you coming out?

Inferno LSX · 03-21-2013, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by urr2slo

Oops, should I not tell you I'm working on a forged stroker in the 428 to 434 cid range then?

I'm coming out for Super Chevy, detuning slightly, and afterwards I'm going thru the entire driveline. New engine, trans upgrade, and complete driveline upgrade, axles, diff, everything. Going to try to win it all on my tired

63k powertrain. Its either going to win it all or blow up trying. Are you coming out?

Sounds like a good plan. I likie!

BiggFoot · 03-21-2013, 11:12 PM

625 RWHP for 20k

BiggFoot · 03-21-2013, 11:13 PM

625 RWHP for 20k and no problems so far other than keeping a good ring and pinion in the sum beyatch. Hopefully Strange Engineering gears will do the trick!

epstein · 03-22-2013, 12:10 PM

Ill be aiming just around 600 when I install the smaller pulley zl1 pump and ID 850's...... and of course Teds Tune.....

BDON_DBB · 03-26-2013, 06:55 PM

700rwhp running zl1 pump with a kb bap,no problems yet "knock on wood" keep that oil clean and good gas, im thinking of throwing more timing in thw tune , wanna get closer to the 8s.

03-11-2013, 11:09 PM	#31
Chris82xx Make your peace with God! Drives: 2011 Camaro SS/RS M6 Convertible Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Dirty Jersey Posts: 1,595	There was a build that came out of ECS, same setup as mine except he used the ZL1 pump with the BAP, He made 800 on his stock block. __________________ ECS base supercharger (NOVI 1500SL), ECS AlKY control kit, 92mm TB, ARH 1 7/8" LT's non-catted, Borla 3" exhaust, ID850 injectors, Squash fuel system, ECS Big Blower Cam, MGW short throw shifter, DSS 1000hp axles, LGW differential cover, billet caps, Tech AFX heater hoses, Pedders differential bushings, Eaton TrueTrac differential, PRC dual valve springs, Katech C5R timing chain, ATI balancer, Meilings oil pump, Pfadt Trailing Arms, Pfadt Tie Rods, Pfadt Sway Bars, Pfadt End Links, DSS Aluminum Driveshaft 811RWHP/719RWTQ UNDER MAJOR OVERHAUL!!

03-13-2013, 07:22 PM	#33
urr2slo Drives: 2010 2ss ss/rs abm, 2016 2ss/rs hbm Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: N. Phx, Az Posts: 1,332	I've been S/C'ed since 250 miles and at 713 rwhp since 8k and I currently have 61k on a stock bottom end. I have over 40 track days, road course, autocross, standing mile and drag racing as well as it being my daily driver. I have also driven it long distances between Ca, Nv,Az Tx and on occasion when the circumstances presented themselves I have been know to exceed to posted speed limits slightly. The basic rule of thumb is the stock bottom end will survive up to 800 crank h.p. safely as long as you have it tuned perfectly and can fuel it properly under boost, after that the pistons and rods are junk. I have been on that ragged edge for 61k and I was originally hoping to get 50k out of it. I have already started my new build but now its more of a durability test, I dont think I will put the new motor till it blows or 100k. The way I've been driving lately that will be it just over a year. In the mean time the new motor is just growing stronger. __________________ URR2SLO - If you're not going fast enough, get out the way......

03-19-2013, 03:48 PM	#35
SSBUSDRVR Drives: '11 2SS/RS IBM/BLK M6 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Central FL Posts: 3,748 View My Garage	Mid 600's here LS3. 21.8k. Put 93 in it and go. (have changed the oil in it a few times.lol) No issues yet. Knock on wood. Due for a checkup soon. __________________ '11 IBM 2SS/RS Built and Tuned by Vengeance Racing Vengeance PCM Vengeance Racing Mast Black Label LS7 Headed 416 ProCharger Stage II D1X Race ,Monster Triple,Alky Control Meth Inj, Forgestar F14 Drag Version and a bunch of other blah blah blah.838/688 at 12lbs Street Friendly

03-21-2013, 11:12 PM	#39
BiggFoot Drives: 2010 Camaro (M6) 1000+ HP SBE Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 1,391	625 RWHP for 20k __________________ F-1X, Cog Drive, ATI Super Pulley/Sprag ~ 19 psi Blower Cam Brodix BP BR 3 Heads Kooks LT Headers and full 3" exhaust Fore Triple Pump Fuel System with ID 1700X Injectors - E85 conversion DSS 9” Conversion (1400 hp axles, driveshaft, pumpkin) & Strange 3.70 gears McLeod RXT Twin HD Clutch & Upgraded Slave RPM Level VII TR6060 BMR Drag Suspension Package w/Strange shocks Carlyle 15" and M/T ET Street R radials 10.1 @ 143 mph 1/4 mile

03-21-2013, 11:13 PM	#40
BiggFoot Drives: 2010 Camaro (M6) 1000+ HP SBE Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 1,391	625 RWHP for 20k and no problems so far other than keeping a good ring and pinion in the sum beyatch. Hopefully Strange Engineering gears will do the trick! __________________ F-1X, Cog Drive, ATI Super Pulley/Sprag ~ 19 psi Blower Cam Brodix BP BR 3 Heads Kooks LT Headers and full 3" exhaust Fore Triple Pump Fuel System with ID 1700X Injectors - E85 conversion DSS 9” Conversion (1400 hp axles, driveshaft, pumpkin) & Strange 3.70 gears McLeod RXT Twin HD Clutch & Upgraded Slave RPM Level VII TR6060 BMR Drag Suspension Package w/Strange shocks Carlyle 15" and M/T ET Street R radials 10.1 @ 143 mph 1/4 mile

03-20-2013, 03:12 PM	#36
Alvin@PCMofNC Drives: 2010 IOM RSS Join Date: May 2009 Location: Mooresville Posts: 363	There is two in the shop north of 600 rwhp. A C5 LS1 that should make 600 rwhp and one that left a few weeks ago that made 642. I don't expect any to break.

03-22-2013, 12:10 PM	#41
epstein Account Suspended Drives: SS/RS Join Date: May 2010 Location: Transplanted from NYC..(ret. NYPD).Now in CT Posts: 904	Ill be aiming just around 600 when I install the smaller pulley zl1 pump and ID 850's...... and of course Teds Tune.....

03-26-2013, 06:55 PM	#42
BDON_DBB Drives: 2010 Camaro SS D1SC Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: CRESTVIEW Posts: 54	700rwhp running zl1 pump with a kb bap,no problems yet "knock on wood" keep that oil clean and good gas, im thinking of throwing more timing in thw tune , wanna get closer to the 8s.