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Idk if ud agree, but I believe bass is best provided by 10s in custom enclosures, matched to the cubes of space the subs are designed for. I was taught by a guy who did Db comps to build boxes that are not only ported, but baffled as well. I have had very good luck with this design, even for concert quality sound. I have long since moved away from the boom boom music and prefer quality of sound. Still not an audiophile by far tho. If you see this snoman, and don't mind me picking your brain a little, I'd appreciate a DM. Thanks again for the info and thanks in advance if you have a little time to mssg me. |
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To touch on your 'ported' statement regarding subs, you can either have sound quality or dB, but not both. SQ subs will always be in a sealed enclosure, it's simple physics and physically impossible to create a near flat tonal response curve from 10hz-60hz in any other manner. Understand that reality is different than paper and taking advice from a pro-circuit installer about what to install in an 'amateur vehicle' should be taken with a grain of salt. At the end of the day, you should listen to ported vs sealed enclosures to determine what you personally enjoy better.
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Who cares about a flat response at 10Hz to 60hz though? You can't hear 10Hz, and if you could, it would be the nasty sound of a flapping cone. That frequency range is all percussive and is why people want subs in the first place. To boost. If you want a flat tonal response, then you should be more concerned with 80Hz to around 125Hz or whatever frequency the 6.5's drop off at.
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I'll reiterate and expand, for 99.99% of the general public, you need to go listen to ported vs. sealed and be done with it....install whatever you like and enjoy your system. I have ported 15"s for my THX system that will nearly bring my neighbors pictures off his home walls, but a sealed system in my car. Is it right? No idea. Is it perfect? Absolutely no, but it's my money and ears and it sounds right for me.
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Flat tonal in the 3rd and 4th octave (near or at common crossover points) is a completely different discussion and has it's own problems. There are other SQ forums and FB groups more suited to that if like. This is generally why 10s or 8s are used, to bridge the gap for a more pure mid-bass that 6.5s struggle to produce at any real volume.
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On mine i'm running them off of a alipine head unit thats giving 50x4 peak and 15x4 nominal. I have polk 6.5's in the door like this https://soundrating.com/best-6x9-speakers/ infinity kappa 3.5's in the dash and the 6x9 kappa's in the rear. I used to install car stereos and I am certified so I can tell you that the setup I have is no where near as good as running an outboard amp. I'm waiting to put my amp in until I decide on a good subwoofer and I can get my buddy to come and measure the trunk so we can figure out how to make a box and hide everything without losing much if any trunk space. The way I have it setup does sound better than the bose system on my friends e-320 mercedes and the bose system is very good. My recommendation for now is to get a good headunit and basically do what I did with the speakers. The brand is up to you but I still definitely recommend polk or infinity The alpine head unit doesnt look anywhere near stock which pisses me off, so I am saving up to get an eclipse double din navigation system which will be custom molded into the factory slot, I will have to remove the cupholder but I dont really use it anyway. All of that will come when I finally get my amps and the sub. But enough about mine, I do get carried away. It does sound really good running off of a good aftermarket head unit. Like alpine, eclipse or maybe panasonic.
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10-15-2018, 05:19 PM | #34 |
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I'm thinking about swapping mines out they are blown. Do these speakers need special adapters? Or can I just rip them off the old ones?
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Requires a bracket, unless you destroy and modify old ones ( NOT ALL SPEAKERS FIT BTW )
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This one time, in high school, I had a set of Panasonic 6x9’s in my Catalina with a Tancredi amp / equalizer and an Audiovox amp for the front with some 5-1/4’s I got from JC Whitney. We used to play Kashmir in the high school parking lot at full volume after school. That was cool.
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Easy enough to make your own.
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Old thread - but I saw on this one (and a couple of others) that folks were using components in place of the 6x9s. Some created their own adapter out of wood, some purchased an adapter, and others simply cut off the old 6x9 speaker and used its base as the adapter.
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rear speakers mess up the sound stage you can use them for some rear fill however i have never gone to a concert ad turned my back to the stage.... |
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If people jsut want off the shelf ones, metra makes them
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Ok, I now have an aftermarket Pioneer headunit, new front components, a powered sub in the trunk (both Rockfords) and the stock BA amp. I still have the stock rear 6x9s. I was thinking about getting a matching set of inexpensive rears just to round out the package. What I gathered from this thread is to basically ignore the rears since they’re not blown and will add virtually nothing to improved sound.
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