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Old 06-21-2008, 09:20 PM   #43
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Old 06-22-2008, 07:49 PM   #44
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I'm getting the impression there ain't gonna be no manual windows version of this car.
I definitely would choose manual windows as it is much safer and in every single Chevy I've ever had, the electronic window mechanism has broken at some point.. However it is wishful thinking in this day and age..
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Old 06-22-2008, 11:31 PM   #45
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^Actually, I would just choose different electric motors over the ones in the 4th Gens.....since they SUCKED!!!! I've changed out two and am getting ready to change out my drivers side after it just decided to 'quit working' for a while last week.
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Old 06-23-2008, 07:26 AM   #46
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Old 06-23-2008, 08:06 AM   #47
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Don't believe everything you read and half of what you see..............
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Old 06-23-2008, 10:57 AM   #49
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RS----Z26 : MERCHANDISED PKG, OPEL CONVERSION
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let the interior trim packages be called whatever they want,
the RS-Rally Sport packages has most often been an exterior image conversion to the base model for those who want style over performance,
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Spike and Mythic are are correct again. I had this argument yesterday, with a guy thats a know it all. I dont know how many times Im gonna have to tell people that SS is actually Lower than Z28 (SS is Z27) and thats the way they were sold witht the first gens....then he's like "if its a detuned ZR1 engine just retune it" ITS A DIFFERENT ENGINE INTERNALS AND SUPERCHARGER even if you buy the SC off of the ZR1 the engine was'nt rated for it!

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^Actually, I would just choose different electric motors over the ones in the 4th Gens.....since they SUCKED!!!! I've changed out two and am getting ready to change out my drivers side after it just decided to 'quit working' for a while last week.
It stinks pulling up to a drive thru window in a nice car and you have to open the door to pay and pick up the food..
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Old 06-23-2008, 11:42 AM   #51
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It stinks pulling up to a drive thru window in a nice car and you have to open the door to pay and pick up the food..
Oh, it never gets stuck in the up position! It always gets stuck in the down position!!! Even worse! I'd much rather have it stuck in the up position. I mean, you get to the store and need to run in really quickly, but before getting out, try to roll up your windows. The passenger window goes up fine, but the drivers side only goes up 4 inches and then stops. WTF. You turn off/on the car and try again. Goes up 3 more inches and stops. Repeat over and over, but only goes up an inch at a time.

Yes...this is what happens. I hate it. The motors for the 4th Gen windows suck. It's not anything new as everyone knows it!
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Old 06-23-2008, 12:12 PM   #52
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Do they make cars with manual windows anymore? I don't even think a Fit or Versa comes with crank windows. Hell I'm at the point where I'm annoyed by having to take a key out of my pocket for my wife's car.
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