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Old 07-29-2010, 08:47 AM   #15
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You're buying a 2012 and you're already worried about this? Relax, don't you have anything more important to worry about? This should not be a deal-breaker if you love the car and certainly not worth bringing up the M word or the O word...COME ON!

Simple solution...if all-seasons are not offered, you have plenty of time to save up for a nice set of winter rims/tires from tire-rack. You'll put less mileage on your stock tires, you stock rims wont get trashed in the winter and your car will be safer.
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Old 07-29-2010, 09:31 AM   #16
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I can see how this issue is frustrating for some of you folks, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. As soon as the first snow flake hits the ground my Camaro is going to be in hibernation mode.
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Old 07-29-2010, 09:36 AM   #17
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Get some all season tires and swap them out, then sell your stock tires to offset some of the cost. Lots of guys here go through tires quickly and would buy a nice set of P-zeros.
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Old 07-29-2010, 10:39 AM   #18
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THIS IS ALSO MY BIGGEST GRIP ABOUT THIS CAMARO. I've waited 30 years to order a Camaro. I will not spend the extra money on the RS because of what you are saying. They should offer the RS package with all season tires and but with the same rims sizes from front to back. As it is, you can not rotate these tires.

I've also seen treads were Camaro owners are getting less than 10,000 miles out of these tires. In all honesty, what percentage of Camaro owners are going to need summer tires to keep their car from slidding off the road. The summer tires and different 20" rim sizes should have been a seperate option.

The RS should have been an appearance package only and then a seperate beefed up performance package that included the summer tires and 20" rims. I do believe the Mustangs are packaged that way.

I quess I'm just getting too sensible in my older age to consider a second set of tires. But, I did the same thing in the 70's with my '68 Chevelle. In the winter, I would let the air out of my back air shocks and put on a pair snow tires with steel studs.
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Old 07-29-2010, 10:50 AM   #19
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I can see how this issue is frustrating for some of you folks, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. As soon as the first snow flake hits the ground my Camaro is going to be in hibernation mode.
agreed.

i never planned on driving the camaro in the snow, but you cant drive it when the weather drops below a certain temp?
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Old 07-29-2010, 10:24 PM   #20
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Hey.. I've had my car for over a year (30k+ miles because a lot of road trips..) I got new Toyo tires put on this morning. They are the same size as the OEM Pirellis. Don't expect to get any more than 30k out of your pirelli OEMs.. The road noise after 30k is almost unbearable. Almost sounded like a set of off road tires on pavement, lol. Get what you can out of them, but after 30k, don't expect much out of them.

EDIT: Since it is my DD at school in Virginia, I had to drive through a few snowstorms that hit central Virginia this past winter. The tires held up decently for being "summer" tires, IMO, just a lot of sliding.
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Old 07-30-2010, 05:58 AM   #21
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I understand your frustration, I was there myself. But I ended up buying 18" rims and winter tires from tirerack for about $1400 shipped. Sounds like a lot but...

Last winter the winter tires were great. The car was a tank on ice and snow. Fewer problems with it than our other car which is front wheel drive on all season tires.

And every mile on those is not miles on the Pirelli's so that will delay when i have to replace those. ( with something else )

And now I actually like this setup. Second set of rims means I don't have to pay anyone to mount and balance twice a year and can make the change in my garage.

Hiking boots for the winter, track shoes for the summer.
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Old 07-30-2010, 08:17 AM   #22
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I can see how this issue is frustrating for some of you folks, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. As soon as the first snow flake hits the ground my Camaro is going to be in hibernation mode.
I kept a daily driver for bad weather even in the Summer, but I can't stand not taking it out for a spin in the winter. At least once or twice a month just for fun when the roads are dry. Try it, It's like the first week you had your car when you have not driven it for a couple of weeks. But with the P/zeros @ 25 degrees- It's just scarry in my opinion.
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