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Jay_LHD3 · 10-11-2009, 08:38 PM

American Le Mans 2009 Series ends in a brawl across the finish line with the Flying Lizard porsche and GM Corvette team!! The #3 corvette goes across the finish line sideways/backwards after hitting the wall head on.

I'm a Flying Lizard fan but the GM Corvette team always brings excitement to the track. Even when they had the only two cars left in GT1 they still raced each other out of the pits.

Next year is going to be crazy with all the manufactures in the GT class: Corvette, Ferrari, Porsche, BMW, Jaguar, Panoz, Dodge,and Ford with the GT. I think after watching yesterdays race that we know who are going to be the "bad boys" on the track! (cough GM Corvette, cough)

I tried to find a youtube video but couldn't. Here is a better recap with comments from the corvette driver on how the race ended!! http://www.motorsport.com/news/artic...FS=ALMS-LEMANS

Thanks Jekyll for the video link!!!

CDN SS · 10-11-2009, 09:01 PM

Hell of a race with a very exciting finish.

Jekyll-N-Hyde · 10-11-2009, 11:22 PM

Minute 3.15 is the crash

would be kicking A$$ lol

*Mr. Wyndham* · 10-12-2009, 12:43 AM

Gah! Stinking Porche!!

...thought the bumping before that was hilarious, though...

manimsoblack · 10-12-2009, 01:31 AM

And they didn't penalize him for running him into the wall like that?

franknbeans · 10-12-2009, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by manimsoblack

And they didn't penalize him for running him into the wall like that?

All-Or-Nothing · 10-12-2009, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jfaber99

American Le Mans 2009 Series ends in a brawl across the finish line with the Flying Lizard porsche and GM Corvette team!! The #3 corvette goes across the finish line sideways/backwards after hitting the wall head on.

I'm a Flying Lizard fan but the GM Corvette team always brings excitement to the track. Even when they had the only two cars left in GT1 they still raced each other out of the pits.

Next year is going to be crazy with all the manufactures in the GT class: Corvette, Ferrari, Porsche, BMW, Jaguar, Panoz, and Ford with the GT. I think after watching yesterdays race that we know who are going to be the "bad boys" on the track! (cough GM Corvette, cough)

I tried to find a youtube video but couldn't. Here is a better recap with comments from the corvette driver on how the race ended!! http://www.motorsport.com/news/artic...FS=ALMS-LEMANS

True. Next year is really gonna be something to watch. I'm so behing over here I didn't even know Ford would be racing a GT. I guess Ford and GM will be battling for the top spots. Gotta love those Corvettes tho'.

Jay_LHD3 · 10-12-2009, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by manimsoblack

And they didn't penalize him for running him into the wall like that?

Come on now! The Corvette Team had that coming! LOL

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Originally Posted by All-Or-Nothing

True. Next year is really gonna be something to watch. I'm so behing over here I didn't even know Ford would be racing a GT. I guess Ford and GM will be battling for the top spots. Gotta love those Corvettes tho'.

The Ford GT is raced by the Robertson Racing Team, not by Ford like the two corvettes .

I also forgot about the Dodge Viper that is ran by the Primetime Race Group Team.

MCPOAJ · 10-12-2009, 12:06 PM

Other then maybe the rally this is THE BEST racing period

*Mindz* · 10-12-2009, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jfaber99

Come on now! The Corvette Team had that coming! LOL

The Ford GT is raced by the Robertson Racing Team, not by Ford like the two corvettes .

I also forgot about the Dodge Viper that is ran by the Primetime Race Group Team.

Out of everyone on every forum I've seen while researching this after just watching it DVR'ed (cuz I work nights), a majority of people for jorg are euopean. They all keep bringing up Melo from last year's Sebring race.

The corvette was obviously the faster car as Jan spun out AHEAD of the porsche. Jan was squeezed into the wall so hard that the only logical course of action is to steer away from the wall and back towards the porsche. The porsche just rode his fender until the spin was initiated and past the point of no return.

The difference with Melo/Berg from last year is that Melo didn't put him into the wall. It was just rubbing. Had Jorg actually done the exact same thing as Melo did in 2007, Jan would have taken it.

My point being is that the rubbing and bumping was perfectly fine, but squeezing Magnusson into the wall THAT MUCH was A) crossing a line and was either done intentionally to make him spin, or B) Jorg wasn't smart enough to realize what was going to happen.

Being the Jorg is a professional, one can only hope that he has the intelligence to know that putting someone into the wall that hard and keeping them there would result in a catastrophic spin.

All I have to say is that this goes unpenalized, I wouldn't be suprised to see ALMS turn into nascar and having several more incidents like this where people might get hurt. The potential for an injury skyrockets if there's one or more of these incidents every race and that's what seems will eventually happen.

Jay_LHD3 · 10-12-2009, 04:03 PM

I agree that putting someone in the wall is not what racing should be about. I think this crash looked a lot worse than it was.

Magnusson should have never pushed him in the last corner with the finish line being that close. It didn't matter that the corvette was faster, anyone would have been faster than the guy breaking for two cars (his and the one pushing him). The lap before he had to give the lead back to Jorg.

I think that is why the Corvette Team took this with a grin, saying that it was two good teams, two good cars, and two good drivers.

This was a track for the Porsche. The Corvette dominated the last five race tracks and they should have taken their second place finish without the drama.

I think that everyone else is going to have to step up to compete with the corvettes next year.

*Mindz* · 10-12-2009, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jfaber99

I think that everyone else is going to have to step up to compete with the corvettes next year.

I think so too. I just hope that they don't have to watch their backs for corvettes using tactics that extreme if they're going to be passed since it's "ok" to put someone in the wall and take them out of the race like that.

MCPOAJ · 10-12-2009, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jfaber99

Come on now! The Corvette Team had that coming! LOL

The Ford GT is raced by the Robertson Racing Team, not by Ford like the two corvettes .

I also forgot about the Dodge Viper that is ran by the Primetime Race Group Team.

I don't see how he had it coming when the proshce pushed him into the dirt on turn 2 of that lap? that love tap was nothing compaired to ramming him into the wall and costing him the entire race

I finally got to watch that now... I'd be SO pissed off i was just pissed watching it stupid ass porsche can't race fair. C6.R>Porsche

Jay_LHD3 · 10-12-2009, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MCPOAJ

I don't see how he had it coming when the proshce pushed him into the dirt on turn 2 of that lap? that love tap was nothing compaired to ramming him into the wall and costing him the entire race

I finally got to watch that now... I'd be SO pissed off i was just pissed watching it stupid ass porsche can't race fair. C6.R>Porsche

I'm referring to the entire race not just the last 2 laps! One hour into the race the #4 corvette drives straight into turn one like a kamikaze pilot, putting three cars in the gravel. To say he forgot that he did not have CF brakes anymore after being in this new class for the last five races...

The Flying Lizard Team normally goes through a entire race without causing incidents on the track. That is why they win the championship year after year. I think this time they just had enough of one team being a bully on the track. I like the Corvette Team (exciting to watch) but they have been bullies in this series from year one. (Even racing against each other #3 vs. #4 car.)

That might be why nobody was left in GT1 class to race against. j/k

10-11-2009, 08:38 PM	#1
Jay_LHD3 Drives: 2019 F150 RCSB Abyss FX4 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 2,277	American Le Mans 2009 Series ends in a... American Le Mans 2009 Series ends in a brawl across the finish line with the Flying Lizard porsche and GM Corvette team!! The #3 corvette goes across the finish line sideways/backwards after hitting the wall head on. I'm a Flying Lizard fan but the GM Corvette team always brings excitement to the track. Even when they had the only two cars left in GT1 they still raced each other out of the pits. Next year is going to be crazy with all the manufactures in the GT class: Corvette, Ferrari, Porsche, BMW, Jaguar, Panoz, Dodge,and Ford with the GT. I think after watching yesterdays race that we know who are going to be the "bad boys" on the track! (cough GM Corvette, cough) I tried to find a youtube video but couldn't. Here is a better recap with comments from the corvette driver on how the race ended!! http://www.motorsport.com/news/artic...FS=ALMS-LEMANS Thanks Jekyll for the video link!!! Last edited by Jay_LHD3; 10-12-2009 at 11:17 AM.

10-11-2009, 09:01 PM	#2
CDN SS Steve from Canada. Drives: 2010 SW SS/RS with Inferno package. Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Niagara Ontario Canada Posts: 1,969 View My Garage	Hell of a race with a very exciting finish. __________________

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Jay_LHD3 Drives: 2019 F150 RCSB Abyss FX4 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 2,277	I agree that putting someone in the wall is not what racing should be about. I think this crash looked a lot worse than it was. Magnusson should have never pushed him in the last corner with the finish line being that close. It didn't matter that the corvette was faster, anyone would have been faster than the guy breaking for two cars (his and the one pushing him). The lap before he had to give the lead back to Jorg. I think that is why the Corvette Team took this with a grin, saying that it was two good teams, two good cars, and two good drivers. This was a track for the Porsche. The Corvette dominated the last five race tracks and they should have taken their second place finish without the drama. I think that everyone else is going to have to step up to compete with the corvettes next year.