1LE vs SS w/ 3.91 gears - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Hard Parker · 12-29-2013, 07:44 PM

I'll keep this nice and short and to the point..

I know the 1LE has 3.91 gears but also has a different transmission ratio which is great for track use but kind of negates the rear end on street use...

Looking at 0-60 and quarter mile times I don't see a big difference..

So which one is quicker?

Once again I know the 1LE is setup for track use but if I ever pull the trigger it would see the track/drag less than 10 times a yr..

Msmall143 · 12-29-2013, 07:51 PM

whichever driver is better. Cars are similiar.

even with the same driver the advantage may flip flop

Synner · 12-29-2013, 07:58 PM

SS would be faster assuming equivalent tires/traction. SS for the drag strip, 1LE for the road course.

MM6 w/ 3.91
1st gear ratio: 2.66 10.42
2nd gear ratio: 1.78 6.97
3rd gear ratio: 1.30 5.09
4th gear ratio: 1.00 3.91
5th gear ratio: 0.74 2.90
6th gear ratio: 0.50 1.96

M10 w/ 3.45 w/ 3.91
1st gear ratio: 3.01 10.38 11.77
2nd gear ratio: 2.07 7.14 8.09
3rd gear ratio: 1.43 4.93 5.59
4th gear ratio: 1.00 3.45 3.91
5th gear ratio: 0.84 2.90 3.28
6th gear ratio: 0.57 1.97 2.23

Hard Parker · 12-29-2013, 08:03 PM

Which would be better for the street..I don't want a race car..if I did it would be an LS7 RX-7

Synner · 12-29-2013, 08:11 PM

Stoplight to stoplight the SS with gears, fun on curvy roads the 1LE.

AG1LE · 12-29-2013, 08:29 PM

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=329619

Hard Parker · 12-29-2013, 10:55 PM

thanks for the info...

Fraxum · 12-29-2013, 11:04 PM

Tested this out near the end of last season with a friend. The LS3 SS with 3.91s is faster. With similar bolton mods, power, and driving 12.1 (SS) to 12.3 (1LE) as the best for each car in mine shaft Atco weather. He can launch harder on 20" DRs to my possibly better hooking 18" DRs.

It's still a drivers race, but I can't match his best times. I do get a higher MPH, 1LEs seem to trap higher than SSes. He just added a cam, so next season I will have to red light to beat him.

Hard Parker · 12-30-2013, 05:49 PM

One more question....could you add the 1LE package to a reg. SS at the dealership for the $3500 that is the normal cost when ordered from the factory?

ST1LE · 12-30-2013, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Venom SS

One more question....could you add the 1LE package to a reg. SS at the dealership for the $3500 that is the normal cost when ordered from the factory?

You can add the 1LE suspension after the fact as well as source some wheels and so on, but I am pretty sure the only way for a true 1LE with all options for or even close to $3500 is to have a factory 1LE.

Synner · 12-30-2013, 07:32 PM

The transmission alone is 3500.

Hard Parker · 12-30-2013, 09:15 PM

I would only want the gears and wheels..

Murse · 12-30-2013, 09:37 PM

The wheels are $1,175 each not includinv tires.

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Mmar88 · 12-31-2013, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Murse

The wheels are $1,175 each not includinv tires.

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12-29-2013, 07:44 PM	#1
Hard Parker OMWTFYB Drives: ZL1 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,523	1LE vs SS w/ 3.91 gears I'll keep this nice and short and to the point.. I know the 1LE has 3.91 gears but also has a different transmission ratio which is great for track use but kind of negates the rear end on street use... Looking at 0-60 and quarter mile times I don't see a big difference.. So which one is quicker? Once again I know the 1LE is setup for track use but if I ever pull the trigger it would see the track/drag less than 10 times a yr.. __________________ 2017 Camaro 1LE Nightfall Gray Metallic RIP ☠️☠️☠️ 2017 Camaro ZL1 Black Exposed CF\|Sunroof\|6 Speed Click HERE to follow my build!! Click HERE to follow me on Instagram #savethemanuals

12-29-2013, 08:03 PM	#4
Hard Parker OMWTFYB Drives: ZL1 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,523	Which would be better for the street..I don't want a race car..if I did it would be an LS7 RX-7 __________________ 2017 Camaro 1LE Nightfall Gray Metallic RIP ☠️☠️☠️ 2017 Camaro ZL1 Black Exposed CF\|Sunroof\|6 Speed Click HERE to follow my build!! Click HERE to follow me on Instagram #savethemanuals

12-29-2013, 10:55 PM	#7
Hard Parker OMWTFYB Drives: ZL1 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,523	thanks for the info... __________________ 2017 Camaro 1LE Nightfall Gray Metallic RIP ☠️☠️☠️ 2017 Camaro ZL1 Black Exposed CF\|Sunroof\|6 Speed Click HERE to follow my build!! Click HERE to follow me on Instagram #savethemanuals

12-29-2013, 11:04 PM	#8
Fraxum Drives: a M6 LT1 ordered From Becky!!! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 7,520	Tested this out near the end of last season with a friend. The LS3 SS with 3.91s is faster. With similar bolton mods, power, and driving 12.1 (SS) to 12.3 (1LE) as the best for each car in mine shaft Atco weather. He can launch harder on 20" DRs to my possibly better hooking 18" DRs. It's still a drivers race, but I can't match his best times. I do get a higher MPH, 1LEs seem to trap higher than SSes. He just added a cam, so next season I will have to red light to beat him. __________________ "Democracy Dies in Darkness" My LT1 Keeper ..... ..... My Car Blog CarPlayList, a free App to build USB and Android Music drives. Last edited by Fraxum; 12-31-2013 at 08:36 AM.

12-30-2013, 05:49 PM	#9
Hard Parker OMWTFYB Drives: ZL1 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,523	One more question....could you add the 1LE package to a reg. SS at the dealership for the $3500 that is the normal cost when ordered from the factory? __________________ 2017 Camaro 1LE Nightfall Gray Metallic RIP ☠️☠️☠️ 2017 Camaro ZL1 Black Exposed CF\|Sunroof\|6 Speed Click HERE to follow my build!! Click HERE to follow me on Instagram #savethemanuals

12-29-2013, 07:51 PM	#2
Msmall143 Drives: Camaro Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: NOVA Posts: 1,718	whichever driver is better. Cars are similiar. even with the same driver the advantage may flip flop

12-29-2013, 07:58 PM	#3
Synner Drives: cars Join Date: May 2011 Location: Oversneeze Posts: 4,544	SS would be faster assuming equivalent tires/traction. SS for the drag strip, 1LE for the road course. MM6 w/ 3.91 1st gear ratio: 2.66 10.42 2nd gear ratio: 1.78 6.97 3rd gear ratio: 1.30 5.09 4th gear ratio: 1.00 3.91 5th gear ratio: 0.74 2.90 6th gear ratio: 0.50 1.96 M10 w/ 3.45 w/ 3.91 1st gear ratio: 3.01 10.38 11.77 2nd gear ratio: 2.07 7.14 8.09 3rd gear ratio: 1.43 4.93 5.59 4th gear ratio: 1.00 3.45 3.91 5th gear ratio: 0.84 2.90 3.28 6th gear ratio: 0.57 1.97 2.23

12-29-2013, 08:11 PM	#5
Synner Drives: cars Join Date: May 2011 Location: Oversneeze Posts: 4,544	Stoplight to stoplight the SS with gears, fun on curvy roads the 1LE.

12-29-2013, 08:29 PM	#6
AG1LE Drives: '14 1LE Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: NJ Posts: 2,435	http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=329619

12-30-2013, 07:32 PM	#11
Synner Drives: cars Join Date: May 2011 Location: Oversneeze Posts: 4,544	The transmission alone is 3500.

12-30-2013, 09:15 PM	#12
Hard Parker OMWTFYB Drives: ZL1 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,523	I would only want the gears and wheels.. __________________ 2017 Camaro 1LE Nightfall Gray Metallic RIP ☠️☠️☠️ 2017 Camaro ZL1 Black Exposed CF\|Sunroof\|6 Speed Click HERE to follow my build!! Click HERE to follow me on Instagram #savethemanuals

12-30-2013, 09:37 PM	#13
Murse Drives: 2014 1LE (STORMTROOPER) Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: San Antonio Posts: 248 View My Garage	The wheels are $1,175 each not includinv tires. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk __________________ Speed!