Damage control...

[StoutFiles]

You did not pay for a GM marketing Study -- we DID want to see where peoples' thoughts were so that we can adjust supply to demand.

Yet the build ratio is still 50/50 even though the "marketing study" told you the ratio is 80/20 in favor of the V8. I'm not seeing where the adjustment is...

[Cleric]

Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

They can build them at the pl;ant they have now at a rate reasonable to everyone. The trouble is that they are hell-bent on making V-6 lot cars instead of V-8 ordered cars.

In spite of all the soothing comments and calming of nerves goimng on around here, I can assure you that the "Allocation Lottery" is DEFINITELY AND WITH NO DOUBT going to BURN quite a few of the enthusiasts because of their geographic location and proximity of competent dealerships and population density.

Many of you are going to be pleasantly surprised how fast your car comes... but I'm sure that 25-35% of you are going to have to swallow a bitter pill. At that point you're going to be outnumbered and beaten down for complaining about it by those lucky ones who got theirs.

It happened with the 4th gens and it will happen again. I am speaking from personal experience with the idiotic order process.

For a better overall production proccess they need to make V6s as well. The people on this board do not represent the average person buying a car. The people on this board all want to be the first one on the block with a V8. some people are going to get frustrated that they dont get theres FIRST. But realize that its nothing against you. Its not because GM doesnt care. Its because its not practical. If GM wanted to they could set production to be only V8s for MY 2010 and set MSRP at 60k then drop MY2011 and go.


I am not sure what you think GM doesnt care. They are trying to bring the car to market considering a host of factors. And customer satisfaction is one (if not the most important).

[TAG UR IT]

Originally Posted by gtahvit

Don't repost a link to the IDL Vid again. Anyone that does so will be banned. We will respect GM's request.

I hear you and I'll be on for quite a while tonight.

GM does not want it. We will NOT post it. End of story. We appreciate everyone's cooperation in this.

Originally Posted by StoutFiles

Yet the build ratio is still 50/50 even though the "marketing study" told you the ratio is 80/20 in favor of the V8. I'm not seeing where the adjustment is...

Didn't that go up from the previous 30% V8's and 70% V6's? Just with the new "test to see where everyone is at," I'd say GM quickly saw that there was going to be a higher demand for V8's....hence the higher 50/50 ratio. What you have to remember is that there's going to be thousands of people who want V6's but aren't as die hards as us who join Camaro enthusiast boards to discuss this stuff everyday. They WILL eventually buy the car, but their vote has not been cast yet. So far, I've seen a ratio flip flop...the previous majority being V6's with little V8's...(AND THE SKY FELL AND THE WORLD STOPPED TURNING) and now we see they've adjusted.

The simple truth is we can't let ourselves go nuts w/out having hard, factual information in front of us. I see no point. There will be so many more orders placed as we get closer to production.

[Cleric]

Originally Posted by StoutFiles

Yet the build ratio is still 50/50 even though the "marketing study" told you the ratio is 80/20 in favor of the V8. I'm not seeing where the adjustment is...

Because the initial order does not reprsent steady state which is what you design a line around.

Because it is not practical to retool, rebalance, and ramp a SC up.

Why do people think GM is out to get them or screw them? It seriously baffles me how a company that has been as enganged with the customer base as GM lately could be construded as agains the customer?

I just think that you people are destined to think negatively and assume that things are the worst.

[StoutFiles]

The simple truth is we can't let ourselves go nuts w/out having hard, factual information in front of us.

I'll take your advice and sit out for a while. Just very dissapointed right now.

[Stevo]

Censoring the IDL video, ending the thread on the delay/allocation...are we Americans or not?

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by Stevo

Censoring the IDL video, ending the thread on the delay/allocation...are we Americans or not?

You weren't meant to see that video. Too much misinformation in the IDL thread. And I am not American

[Cleric]

http://www.franchisedistriblaw.net/

This website lists lawsuits between franchise and franchisers. Now realize that each state has its own law and GM must adbide by all of it.

If you dont like then get your state to get ride of it.

[Stevo]

Yeah, yo right dat mus be way too much fo me to knowed bout down here South of South!

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by Stevo

Yeah, yo right dat mus be way too much fo me to knowed bout down here South of South!

Hey, a Cajun is just the great great great great great grandkid of a Canadian who was smart enough to head south

[TAG UR IT]

Originally Posted by Stevo

Censoring the IDL video, ending the thread on the delay/allocation...are we Americans or not?

Sure, we are americans!

But,

IDL video is never intended for the public...hence why only ONE dealer put it out there. We were asked to take it down. We did.

As nicely as I can remind everyone, we do have the freedom of speech...but this is a privately owned website (notice no sponsors telling US what to do!!!) which means if we, the mods and admins, want to do something, we can. We don't like to do that (since it can upset a few people), but we have no problem in doing so (for the betterment of the community). But, to keep in the good graces of GM and have their employees keep coming here (and to keep the information they want private, held private) we will abide by their wishes (or most of them...*poke, poke*)

[Stevo]

Bye DGthe3/Fbodfather/etc.

I have seen da light.

[VICTORY RED 1SS]

Originally Posted by Stevo

Bye DGthe3/Fbodfather/etc.

I have seen da light.

on the switch, up=on

[GothamCamaro]

Originally Posted by Stevo

Bye DGthe3/Fbodfather/etc.

I have seen da light.

Light? Who turned on the lights?!?! I'm going to bed, it's late and too much fun today. Being a V6 pre-order guy, at no time did I feel different from Friday morning to Saturday morning about the Camaro.

Only that the Door sills are a option.... gotta add those to my Camaro!