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Old 05-02-2013, 11:47 AM   #57
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Here's some interesting information on SeaFoaming over on LS1tech

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Ok....as you pour SeaFoam into the brake booster line it immediately gets sucked up by the rear two runners....the front 6 cylinders get pretty much nothing. So you are cleaning the two rear cylinders. Also, fluid is heavy and gets sucked right through the engine and has no time to sit and soak inside the engine....it does nothing. Allot of that SeaFoam that gets poured into the brake booster line pools in the intake also and sits in the rear of the intake.

The smoke show is mainly that SeaFoam getting sucked up when the engine is started later on. I'd be willing to bet that if someone does a Brake Booster Line SeaFoam job, a whole can, then removes their intake BEFORE starting the engine, they will pour allot of SeaFoam onto the ground. Then reinstall it and start the engine......no smoke show. Fluids of any kind are not meant to go through an intake where AIR should be going through.
If you pour it too fast, the rear two cylinders almost stall the engine because they're getting drowned out by the liquid.

You also run the risk of getting too much SeaFoam into a cylinder and hydra-locking the engine...BYE-BYE engine.

They make products that do this job properly....Mopar Combustion Chamber Cleaner (MCCC) and GM has one also. They are FOAM.......so when you spray them into the FORWARD PCV vacuum port this foam travels with the incoming air from the TB and travels to ALL 8 cylinders, (((unlike using the brake booster line and the SeaFoam having to fight against that flow of incoming air))). Which is doesn't, it gets sucked up by the rear two cylinders only. This foam also expands as it sits, so it bloats itself throughout the intake, runners, heads and cylinders...touching all of the inside surfaces to eat away the build-up of crap inside. Fluids can't stick to walls and ceilings, they fall to the bottom from gravity. This foam sits and eats.

I did two full cans of SeaFoam in one week....until I popped my head up and said, "what the hell am I doing, this is a joke." The next week I did one can of MCCC, and it smoked more than both SeaFoam treatments combined.

SeaFoam is GREAT for the gas and to clean out the crankcase during an oil change.

I have been using SeaFoam for almost 14 years in my 1998 T/A. Every 3-4 months a put a full can into 1/8-1/4 of a tank of gas to clean my entire fuel system, from gas tank to filter to lines to injectors to valves. I personally don't use it for oil changes, I use GUNK engine flush at every oil change.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:04 PM   #58
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Here's some interesting information on SeaFoaming over on LS1tech



http://ls1tech.com/forums/general-ma...ur-car-55.html
Doesn't apply to our engines. And Seafoam is a petroleum product which doesn't hydro lock anything. I also disagree with him as he states that nothing should be shot through the IM. Giggle juice and Meth has been delivered like this maybe before he was born lol. Also why do all automakers with no catch can send oil mixed with air and condensation into the IM? Also when you choke out the engine the last drops do stay sitting. Like I said to DarkSS you can also spray in or pour seafoam when you take the IM off. Or just unscrew the tip plate and pour some in each port while engine is off.

This isn't aimed at you Chris. Referring to the LS1 Op.

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Old 05-02-2013, 12:32 PM   #59
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Doesn't apply to our engines. And Seafoam is a petroleum product which doesn't hydro lock anything. I also disagree with him as he states that nothing should be shot through the IM. Giggle juice and Meth has been delivered like this maybe before he was born lol. Also why do all automakers with no catch can send oil mixed with air and condensation into the IM? Also when you choke out the engine the last drops do stay sitting. Like I said to DarkSS you can also spray in or pour seafoam when you take the IM off. Or just unscrew the tip plate and pour some in each port while engine is off.

This isn't aimed at you Chris. Referring to the LS1 Op.

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Oh I know it isn't. I'm just on the fence about everything and think it's good information to read. Plus I'm bored at work

I've heard a lot of good things about MCCC (Mopar Combustion Chamber Cleaner) and here is a guide on it.

http://ls1tech.com/forums/general-ma...-your-car.html

Once again just more information and it makes for a good read

Oh and I'm not saying seafoam wont work. Obviously it has worked for you.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:56 PM   #60
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Oh I know it isn't. I'm just on the fence about everything and think it's good information to read. Plus I'm bored at work

I've heard a lot of good things about MCCC (Mopar Combustion Chamber Cleaner) and here is a guide on it.

http://ls1tech.com/forums/general-ma...-your-car.html

Once again just more information and it makes for a good read

Oh and I'm not saying seafoam wont work. Obviously it has worked for you.
I've heard of MCCC but I haven't seen it anywhere. But I also don't look for it lol. I may give it a go and look for it. And add it to this thread on post #2 when I get my hands on some.

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Old 05-02-2013, 01:53 PM   #61
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Have to go to a Dodge dealer, thus why you have never seen it lol. I'll test it out soon, I'm due for an oil change. Just put in the sea foam in the fuel tank..

The MCCC may have to wait, having a lot of work done to my car and it might be this weekend.... lol. Depends whenever Jamie (J-Rod) has time to do it all.

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Thanks cant_see_me for the awesome tutorial! I did the whole process yesterday and nearly smoked out my whole neighborhood. Car seems to idle much smoother now too
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Thanks cant_see_me for the awesome tutorial! I did the whole process yesterday and nearly smoked out my whole neighborhood. Car seems to idle much smoother now too
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Old 05-03-2013, 06:27 AM   #64
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Regarding using Gunk - I've used it in the past but was told by a mechanic that it cleans too well and may dry out the seals; especially on older cars.
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Old 05-12-2013, 07:18 AM   #66
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Mine is done. Thank you for the write up. The pics made it much easier and I am not mechanically inclined.

Just a suggestion.....warn the wife what you are doing so she does not come running out of the house wondering what is wrong with the car and why it smells funny.

I opted for IM cleaning option two. Did a little smoking while spraying in the deep creep. Once I took off down the road, smoked real bad for about a half block and by another block it was all clear. Next time I may try the IM cleaning option one to see if it makes a difference.

Will do the crankcase just before I have to get the oil changed.
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Old 05-21-2013, 01:53 PM   #67
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Sorry, just to clarify before I start this project. So I change the oil and THEN do the seafoam into the booster/IM? Don't have to worry about an oil change after that right?
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Old 05-21-2013, 02:05 PM   #68
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Sorry, just to clarify before I start this project. So I change the oil and THEN do the seafoam into the booster/IM? Don't have to worry about an oil change after that right?
I would do the oil change after everything.
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Old 05-21-2013, 04:33 PM   #69
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Don't put in the brake booster! It enters the right side of the IM and does not get to the left side ports. The can even says only to ingest the seafoam where it will be distributed evenly or damage could occur. First time I did it ai used the brake booster and heard a big metal clunk.Go through the throttle body.

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Don't put in the brake booster! It enters the right side of the IM and does not get to the left side ports. The can even says only to ingest the seafoam where it will be distributed evenly or damage could occur. First time I did it ai used the brake booster and heard a big metal clunk.Go through the throttle body.

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The loud metal sound you hear was the engine stalling and the pistons stopping. Its always been said that the booster line doesn't clean both sides. This is why the IM part is important as it helps clean it. What I have told some before is to take off the top plate on the IM and spray or pour into the cylinders individually. Best way to go about it.

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