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racingray68 · 05-29-2010, 11:22 PM

Ok, so I took the car for a ride and wasn't that impressed.I have the stock Maggie tune on an ls3 and I have to say that I was expecting more. I drove the car about 8 miles and got on it about 3 times and I was disappointed because 3 weeks early I got to drive a stock 2004 viper and that thing was scary fast and my supercharged camaro did not scare me at all.I sure hope that the computer needs to learn or something.I also have a Roto-Fab cai but didnt install it yet because I dont have a tune for it yet,maybe after that install and a tune the car will wake up.Did anyone else have a similar experience?

Supercharged SS · 05-29-2010, 11:24 PM

Def get a custom tune and I would drop down on the pulley. I'm assuming that you have the 3.8. Try the 3.6 with a good tuner and you woun't be dissapointed.

racingray68 · 05-29-2010, 11:59 PM

I sure hope so because for 6000$ I am not satisfied.

sav1 · 05-30-2010, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by racingray68

I sure hope so because for 6000$ I am not satisfied.

WOW, thats terrible. Your post put me over the edge for a KB.

Will@Apf · 05-30-2010, 12:55 AM

X2 on a custom tune.. I'm willing to bet they have a safe/lazy tune with their complete kit..IMO a good idea ... Did you install this system ?if so what kind of boost is it making?

Jeanius · 05-30-2010, 01:01 AM

LMK if you want to sell it!

racingray68 · 05-30-2010, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Will@Apf

X2 on a custom tune.. I'm willing to bet they have a safe/lazy tune with their complete kit..IMO a good idea ... Did you install this system ?if so what kind of boost is it making?

I did install the kit. I dont know how much boost I am making,but I am looking forward to driving it today because I finished it late last night and only took it for a short ride.I am almost 100% sure that I didnt have belt slip as the tensioner mark was perfect when I got back to the garage. I really thought that it would feel a little stronger than the 500hp viper.

10aSSee D · 05-30-2010, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by racingray68

I did install the kit. I dont know how much boost I am making,but I am looking forward to driving it today because I finished it late last night and only took it for a short ride.I am almost 100% sure that I didnt have belt slip as the tensioner mark was perfect when I got back to the garage. I really thought that it would feel a little stronger than the 500hp viper.

Well it probably should feel stronger down low but once you get a tune it should get better. But remember also our cars are on the heavy side and the viper is more than likely lighter.

n2oSS · 05-30-2010, 11:33 AM

I feel for ya, i wasn't really impressed either with my maggie after install. I'll show ya what im doing so far.

Installed with maggie shelf tune. (felt weak)
Got with jannetty racing and got his tune for the 3.6 pulley which i also ordered. (felt smoother more responsive but still weak)
Should get 3.6 pulley friday or monday and will further comment on this.

I let a few of my friends drive it that drove the car when it just had jannetty's stage one package. They all said it felt badass, and one actually scared the shit out of himself on 5 mph punch. So i thought maybe its just im too used to the car and just can't tell a difference.

Another thing i took into consideration is my previous car, a 07 350z hr, was lighter and i had a 150 shot on it. So a press of a button to shoot up the torque of a car that had little torque to begin with feels amazing. On the other hand a car that already has a good amount of torque with a mod that is kinda backwards from nitrous making more hp then torque at a sloping power increase you just dont feel as much.

Till i can get my car back to houston track again i am going to keep second guessing this mod. If it pulls good numbers then its just im used to the car, if not maybe it wasn't the best mod for my driving style. Shall see i guess.

VADER SS L99 · 05-30-2010, 11:49 AM

I would think even with the maggie tune that it would feel as powerfull or more as the Viper. Maybe something is a miss?

old motorhead · 05-30-2010, 01:24 PM

Dot the I's cross the T's and make sure everything is as it should be. After doing that, if the power is still not enough, pulley down and mod up 'till the power is where you want it. The TVS is capable of making enough power to go extremely fast and break lots of sheeeet...... if that's what you're after.

*mlee* · 05-30-2010, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 2010SSRS

1 - to get a 4000lb car over 550rwhp with a 2300 ya need LT Headers, the CAI, 8psi of boost with a smaller pulley and a custom tune.

2 - to get a 4000lb car over 550rwhp with a 1900 ya need the 1900 with one size smaller puller producing 7.5psi of boost and netting you 565rwhp. no other mods needed. 600rwhp is easily acheived with the 1900 and LT Headers, smaller pulley, CAI and custom tune.

What the heck does weight have to do with making HP...

VADER SS L99 · 05-30-2010, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 2010SSRS

really? r u that dumb?.......... 500hp won't perform as well in a 4000lb (Camaro) car vs a 3000lb (Viper) car. they're completely different classes of vehicles.

weight has always been a hp killer.

500hp in a tank is not gonna perform like 500hp in a go cart.

I thought the Viper was 3357lbs and the Camaro was 3860lbs.

2010SSRS · 05-30-2010, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mlee

What the heck does weight have to do with making HP...

It's just a reference.......you could replace "4000lb car" with "Camaro" or "car". i'm refering to the weight of the car because the original post is comparing Camaros to Vipers............HUGE weight difference.

c'mon guys..........are you REALLY under the assumption that just because both are 500hp vehicles that they should perform the same?

and if ur 3357lb vs 3860lb comparison is accurate (i'm using exaggerated examples), 503lbs is still a lot.

again, the main point is that you CAN'T compare a Viper to a Camaro........they are NOT the in the same league! and if you think you can just bolt on a Maggie and expect the two cars to perform the same.......you'll be VERY disappointed!

love the Camaro - just understand it's capabilities...

05-29-2010, 11:22 PM	#1
racingray68 racingray Drives: 1968 camaro ss Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Johnstown Pa Posts: 73	Just got done with my Maggie install Ok, so I took the car for a ride and wasn't that impressed.I have the stock Maggie tune on an ls3 and I have to say that I was expecting more. I drove the car about 8 miles and got on it about 3 times and I was disappointed because 3 weeks early I got to drive a stock 2004 viper and that thing was scary fast and my supercharged camaro did not scare me at all.I sure hope that the computer needs to learn or something.I also have a Roto-Fab cai but didnt install it yet because I dont have a tune for it yet,maybe after that install and a tune the car will wake up.Did anyone else have a similar experience?

05-30-2010, 01:01 AM	#6
Jeanius Drives: Blk/Blk 2018 Sierra SLT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Golden State Posts: 2,925	LMK if you want to sell it! __________________ SOLD: 2SS LS3 M6 - MGW - Dynatech LT's HF Cats - Magnaflow Street CB - ADM Race CAI - Pedders Xa Coilovers - Pfadt Sways TRADED: 2016 2SS M6

05-30-2010, 11:33 AM	#9
n2oSS Drives: 2010 SS2 Camaro Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 434 View My Garage	I feel for ya, i wasn't really impressed either with my maggie after install. I'll show ya what im doing so far. Installed with maggie shelf tune. (felt weak) Got with jannetty racing and got his tune for the 3.6 pulley which i also ordered. (felt smoother more responsive but still weak) Should get 3.6 pulley friday or monday and will further comment on this. I let a few of my friends drive it that drove the car when it just had jannetty's stage one package. They all said it felt badass, and one actually scared the shit out of himself on 5 mph punch. So i thought maybe its just im too used to the car and just can't tell a difference. Another thing i took into consideration is my previous car, a 07 350z hr, was lighter and i had a 150 shot on it. So a press of a button to shoot up the torque of a car that had little torque to begin with feels amazing. On the other hand a car that already has a good amount of torque with a mod that is kinda backwards from nitrous making more hp then torque at a sloping power increase you just dont feel as much. Till i can get my car back to houston track again i am going to keep second guessing this mod. If it pulls good numbers then its just im used to the car, if not maybe it wasn't the best mod for my driving style. Shall see i guess. __________________ Mods: Dynatech Headers, High flow cats, MSD 8.5 wires, magnaflow bullits, Halltech intake, SCT tuner, maggie tvs 2300, Jannetty Tune, BMR driveshaft safety loop, Pfadt drop springs, Pfadt rear trailing arms, Pfadt rear tie rod, ACT Twin Disc Clutch, DSS Aluminum Driveshaft. Appearance Mods: AAC Concept Sidemarkers, P13W Plasma LED Bulbs, Iforged Classics 20". Next Mods: Cam and Fuel System.

05-30-2010, 11:49 AM	#10
VADER SS L99 Drives: 2013 A6 GT 5.0 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 2,909	I would think even with the maggie tune that it would feel as powerfull or more as the Viper. Maybe something is a miss? __________________ BLK/BLK 1SS/RS Ordered 11-01-2009 Took delivery 12-22-2009. Heads/cam/converter/bolt ons. SOLD Feb 2015 to fund 6th gen LT1 SS with 8L90E.

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05-29-2010, 11:24 PM	#2
Supercharged SS Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Sandy Hook, CT Posts: 11,927	Def get a custom tune and I would drop down on the pulley. I'm assuming that you have the 3.8. Try the 3.6 with a good tuner and you woun't be dissapointed.

05-29-2010, 11:59 PM	#3
racingray68 racingray Drives: 1968 camaro ss Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Johnstown Pa Posts: 73	I sure hope so because for 6000$ I am not satisfied.

05-30-2010, 12:55 AM	#5
Will@Apf Drives: corvette Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Acworth GA Posts: 485	X2 on a custom tune.. I'm willing to bet they have a safe/lazy tune with their complete kit..IMO a good idea ... Did you install this system ?if so what kind of boost is it making?

05-30-2010, 01:24 PM	#11
old motorhead Drives: Maggie blown LS3 vette Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SE TX Posts: 1,490	Dot the I's cross the T's and make sure everything is as it should be. After doing that, if the power is still not enough, pulley down and mod up 'till the power is where you want it. The TVS is capable of making enough power to go extremely fast and break lots of sheeeet...... if that's what you're after.