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kinpin · 05-07-2014, 09:43 PM

I was at a Ford dealership today and they had a 2014 GT500 on the floor .
It had just been sold .A salesman told me it sold for 10,000.00 over sticker. I said that is nuts. He said that guys are paying over sticker for the GT500 . I paid 5,000.00 under sticker for my ZL1 . Dose anyone know if the ford guys are paying over sticker for the GT500 ? or even sticker ?

Rico · 05-07-2014, 09:45 PM

That happens with a lot of new model cars. I remember when the camaro first came out in 2009, many dealerships were charging at least $10k over sticker price.

2012-1822 · 05-07-2014, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico

That happens with a lot of new model cars. I remember when the camaro first came out in 2009, many dealerships were charging at least $10k over sticker price.

I don't know specifically about the GT500, but yeah, what Rico said.

I paid sticker for my car. At the time, the next cheapest one that I found in the country, and I checked probably at least 40 states, was $2000 over sticker and most dealers were telling me $5000 over. Different story now, bunch of them on the lots, so you can get a deal.

MYDLIFECRISIS · 05-07-2014, 10:05 PM

In 2012, dealers near me were tacking on 15-25K on ZL1s.

AZ-ZL1 · 05-07-2014, 10:11 PM

Yes sir, Ford dealers here are still asking $10K over sticker for Shelby's

MTCobra · 05-07-2014, 10:23 PM

Part of the attraction and demand is 2014 is likely the last year for a motor as large and powerful as the 5.8L in a Mustang...or at least that's what the guys that bought one told me helped them make their decision.

macwest · 05-07-2014, 11:16 PM

from what I have been reading 2014 is last year of Shelby. From what I have seen many Ford dealers seem to ask over MSRP for the Shelby. Although with the z/28 coming out at 75K shelby for 10K less can be seen as enticing in price.

lbls1 · 05-08-2014, 07:54 AM

There are deals to be made, and there are suckers born every minute. The GT500 is hardly new; I never pay sticker on a new car, so if this is true about the Shelby then that would definitely keep me out of one. I'd look around though, as I'm sure that I could score a bargain on a Shelby.

RedCamaroZL1 · 05-08-2014, 08:55 AM

I almost bought a GT500 last year, but they wanted over sticker. I told them not a chance. They called back saying they could do sticker but no better. I said thanks but no thanks. Got my ZL1 for a little under sticker and it was my first choice on color and options (the gt500 wasn't my first or second color choice even). Both are amazing cars, but I don't feel the Shelby with all options is worth close to 70K. But that's me. Ford guys would disagree probably.

RedCamaroZL1 · 05-08-2014, 08:58 AM

Just to add, I do respect Ford dealers not budging on the price tho. The GT500 should fare better in the used market over the ZL1. I keep seeing ZL1s going for cheap compared to a year ago recently. That kills resale value and sort of irritates me. But oh we'll, doesn't matter if you keep it a long time. Going to enjoy it for now!

lbls1 · 05-08-2014, 10:17 AM

^GT500's resale values weren't great (they depreciated as much or more than the ZL). I haven't checked the '13's yet, but the '10-'12s could be had for considerably less than their sticker price (Ford was charging above MSRP for the '10-'12s when they were new as well).

hognutz · 05-08-2014, 10:18 AM

It all depends on the deal. since there is no 2015 GT500 on the radar I have read that the GT500's were back at MSRP to 1-2k over. the 13-14 resale is better than the zl1 as they made less and it is faster. the 10-12 sucks because it is so much less car than the 13-14.

10k is retarded. not saying it didn't happen but I could buy one right now on ebay brand new for 1k under so that guy did not shop. that same auction for 1k under still has an offer button.

You will find people who are wealthy are impatient and have a dealer they "trust" so special edition cars like this can go for 10k over but it is not the norm. My friend who is a sales manager at a dodge/ford dealer sold the first 2008 SRT challenger for 15k over ha ha. sold the first 2013 GT500 that I could have got for MSRP for 10k over. he just know which guys to call in town when something like that comes in.

LuckyZL-1 · 05-08-2014, 11:15 AM

Here in West Texas you can expect to pay sticker at a minimum. All ZL-1's, GT-500's, GTR's, and Stingrays are sticker plus what ever you can haggle. But if you don't buy it today itll be gone tomorrow!

DRKS1D3 · 05-08-2014, 01:33 PM

Suckers are born everyday! If you look hard enough, you can find them at sticker or less. When my Dad was looking for his 2012 ZL1, every dealer in the area wanted $5-10k over sticker. He drove 5 hours away and got his for $500 under sticker. He could have paid the mark-up, but why shoot yourself in the foot?

05-07-2014, 09:43 PM	#1
kinpin 618 RWHP Drives: 2014 ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Albany New York Posts: 772 View My Garage	Dose anyone know if this is true ? I was at a Ford dealership today and they had a 2014 GT500 on the floor . It had just been sold .A salesman told me it sold for 10,000.00 over sticker. I said that is nuts. He said that guys are paying over sticker for the GT500 . I paid 5,000.00 under sticker for my ZL1 . Dose anyone know if the ford guys are paying over sticker for the GT500 ? or even sticker ?

05-07-2014, 10:05 PM	#4
MYDLIFECRISIS Drives: '12SS/2SS/45TH-'06 2500HD/Silverado Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Fairfax, VA Posts: 2,107 View My Garage	In 2012, dealers near me were tacking on 15-25K on ZL1s. __________________ 2012 Camaro SS 2SS 45TH Anniversary Edition

05-07-2014, 10:11 PM	#5
AZ-ZL1 Dry Heat My @ss Drives: 2012 ZL1 SUMMIT WHITE Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Chandler, Arizona Posts: 758	Yes sir, Ford dealers here are still asking $10K over sticker for Shelby's __________________ 2012 #1765: Xpel Clear Bra, 15% Tint, M2W, LPE GT9 Cam, Ported Heads & Snout, Upgraded Valve Train, 90mm TB, LPE Dual Fan HX, 2.55 Upper, 9.1 Lower (18%), Id850's, KB BAP, Roto-fab CAI, AR Stainless Headers, 673 rwhp, A6, Nothin but Fun!

05-07-2014, 11:16 PM	#7
macwest Drives: 10 Camaro 2SS/RS, 70 Cuda, 71 Cuda Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Oakley - Northern California Posts: 1,156 View My Garage	from what I have been reading 2014 is last year of Shelby. From what I have seen many Ford dealers seem to ask over MSRP for the Shelby. Although with the z/28 coming out at 75K shelby for 10K less can be seen as enticing in price. __________________ "Z28 = first time I bought a new car just to strip parts for my current ride. GM needs to re-think restricted parts. "

05-08-2014, 07:54 AM	#8
lbls1 Drives: 2002 Camaro SS SOM; 2015 Malibu LTZ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 4,022	There are deals to be made, and there are suckers born every minute. The GT500 is hardly new; I never pay sticker on a new car, so if this is true about the Shelby then that would definitely keep me out of one. I'd look around though, as I'm sure that I could score a bargain on a Shelby. __________________ '02 CAMARO SS SOM; 5.7L LS1/FLS6B '08 TBSS AWD Black Granite Metallic '15 Malibu LTZ 2LZ Turbo *'14 CAMARO ZL1 Blue Ray Metallic*

05-07-2014, 09:45 PM	#2
Rico Flying da helicopter Drives: Black SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: HI Posts: 1,215 View My Garage	That happens with a lot of new model cars. I remember when the camaro first came out in 2009, many dealerships were charging at least $10k over sticker price.

05-07-2014, 10:23 PM	#6
MTCobra Drives: 2014 ZL1 Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: So Cal Posts: 396 View My Garage	Part of the attraction and demand is 2014 is likely the last year for a motor as large and powerful as the 5.8L in a Mustang...or at least that's what the guys that bought one told me helped them make their decision.

05-08-2014, 08:55 AM	#9
RedCamaroZL1 Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Rochester Hills, MI Posts: 281	I almost bought a GT500 last year, but they wanted over sticker. I told them not a chance. They called back saying they could do sticker but no better. I said thanks but no thanks. Got my ZL1 for a little under sticker and it was my first choice on color and options (the gt500 wasn't my first or second color choice even). Both are amazing cars, but I don't feel the Shelby with all options is worth close to 70K. But that's me. Ford guys would disagree probably. __________________ 2017 Camaro ZL1 Red Hot A10, PDR, Nav, ECF

05-08-2014, 08:58 AM	#10
RedCamaroZL1 Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Rochester Hills, MI Posts: 281	Just to add, I do respect Ford dealers not budging on the price tho. The GT500 should fare better in the used market over the ZL1. I keep seeing ZL1s going for cheap compared to a year ago recently. That kills resale value and sort of irritates me. But oh we'll, doesn't matter if you keep it a long time. Going to enjoy it for now! __________________ 2017 Camaro ZL1 Red Hot A10, PDR, Nav, ECF

05-08-2014, 10:17 AM	#11
lbls1 Drives: 2002 Camaro SS SOM; 2015 Malibu LTZ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 4,022	^GT500's resale values weren't great (they depreciated as much or more than the ZL). I haven't checked the '13's yet, but the '10-'12s could be had for considerably less than their sticker price (Ford was charging above MSRP for the '10-'12s when they were new as well). __________________ '02 CAMARO SS SOM; 5.7L LS1/FLS6B '08 TBSS AWD Black Granite Metallic '15 Malibu LTZ 2LZ Turbo *'14 CAMARO ZL1 Blue Ray Metallic*

05-08-2014, 10:18 AM	#12
hognutz Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: tangent or Posts: 2,984	It all depends on the deal. since there is no 2015 GT500 on the radar I have read that the GT500's were back at MSRP to 1-2k over. the 13-14 resale is better than the zl1 as they made less and it is faster. the 10-12 sucks because it is so much less car than the 13-14. 10k is retarded. not saying it didn't happen but I could buy one right now on ebay brand new for 1k under so that guy did not shop. that same auction for 1k under still has an offer button. You will find people who are wealthy are impatient and have a dealer they "trust" so special edition cars like this can go for 10k over but it is not the norm. My friend who is a sales manager at a dodge/ford dealer sold the first 2008 SRT challenger for 15k over ha ha. sold the first 2013 GT500 that I could have got for MSRP for 10k over. he just know which guys to call in town when something like that comes in. __________________ shopping for 2017+1le or zl1 2009 CTS-V -sold 2015 Hellcat-sold 2013 ZL1 -sold 2007 Z06- sold 2014 Chrysler 300 2011 Duramax 8" lift, deleted tuned

05-08-2014, 11:15 AM	#13
LuckyZL-1 Ragtop Rocket!!! Drives: Black on Black Convertible Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: San Antonio Texas Posts: 809	Here in West Texas you can expect to pay sticker at a minimum. All ZL-1's, GT-500's, GTR's, and Stingrays are sticker plus what ever you can haggle. But if you don't buy it today itll be gone tomorrow! __________________ ADM built 2013 Triple Black ZL-1 Convertible M6 ADM custom cam, LPE stage 2 heads with dual valve springs, LS-3 ported throttle body, LPE 2 piece pulley, LPE overdrive balancer, 10% overdrive pulley, ported supercharger inlet, ADM race intake system, stainless works 1-7/8 headers, Injector Dynamics injectors, ADM heat exchanger, ADM dual fuel pump system, ADM exhaust switch, ADM 3 tunes tuning package. 744rwhp 727rwtq

05-08-2014, 01:33 PM	#14
DRKS1D3 Drives: '17 Corvette Grand Sport M7 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3,748	Suckers are born everyday! If you look hard enough, you can find them at sticker or less. When my Dad was looking for his 2012 ZL1, every dealer in the area wanted $5-10k over sticker. He drove 5 hours away and got his for $500 under sticker. He could have paid the mark-up, but why shoot yourself in the foot? __________________ MY RIDE: 2017 CORVETTE GRAND SPORT--TRIPLE BLACK, 7 SPEED MANUAL, VARARAM TCR-7 INTAKE, BORLA CATLESS X-PIPE, CARBON FIBER STAGE 2 AERO, MGW SHORT-THROW SHIFTER SOLD2011 TRIPLE BLACK SS CONVERTIBLE--6 SPEED MANUAL, MANY MODS, 455 RWHP/435 RWTQ DAD'S RIDE: 2012 ZL1 #1866--BLACK, 6 SPEED MANUAL, EXPOSED CF HOOD, POLISHED WHEELS, SUNROOF, ROTO-FAB INTAKE "Silly Americans, taking from the rich and giving to the poor only works in fairy tales. Success is earned here!".