549rwhp TSP LS7 MSD small bore build 93oct - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

WHAMMO · 07-25-2018, 03:04 PM

Sorry to post for someone else but I have to;

https://www.facebook.com/30782787914...6107072369143/

Still LS3 shortblock, 90mm TB! Cam is 234/246 235' 235' TSP stage 2 ls7 from what I understand.

Arch-City · 07-25-2018, 07:10 PM

I saw this build on facebook also. It seems to be a very solid build, with great power numbers for 93 octane. I would be interested in what compression they are running and if owner has any plans for E85.

Great job by all involved. It is truly amazing to see the power numbers and track times people are getting out of these cars.

2010reddevil · 07-30-2018, 10:47 PM

I'm not gonna comment much but say that I've personally seen that dyno make some skewed numbers.

zz430camaro · 07-31-2018, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2010reddevil

I'm not gonna comment much but say that I've personally seen that dyno make some skewed numbers.

I did notice that also a couple times.

C6 A6 vette with a tsp 231/236 cam, header and cai made 498 rwhp. I dont think so, find it hard to believe.

2010reddevil · 08-01-2018, 09:42 AM

Seen a built LS1 stock cube go from making a claimed 507whp to another car where it made only 452whp. Same chassis, only difference is one was a stick and the other was an auto. With that said, the auto car was locked in 3rd gear with converter locked too, so same thing as a stick in 4th.

Bo White · 08-01-2018, 11:15 AM

My local dynojet puts locked autos a good bit less than manual cars same build.

2010reddevil · 08-01-2018, 12:34 PM

How is that possible Bo? A locked auto has less frictional moving parts than a manual? Once the converter is locked, only thing spinning round and round is the direct drum with the 3rd gear clutch packs engaged. Vs a manual that has all of the gears rotating about if the clutch is engaged.

WHAMMO · 08-01-2018, 02:08 PM

We never see those kind of combos; huge cam, LS7 small bore and MSD. I think those numbers are totally believable. I dont see why it wouldnt crack 525rwhp+

Bo White · 08-01-2018, 02:14 PM

My buddy has a BTR3 cam and ported heads A6 - 440rwhp
My last build before this one was the same except M6 - 478rwhp

JerTM · 08-01-2018, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2010reddevil

How is that possible Bo? A locked auto has less frictional moving parts than a manual? Once the converter is locked, only thing spinning round and round is the direct drum with the 3rd gear clutch packs engaged. Vs a manual that has all of the gears rotating about if the clutch is engaged.

Fluid pump. Locked or not, the pump has to make pressure to hold the clutches and TCC.

lazerlemonta · 08-01-2018, 03:54 PM

This is a very achievable result. Although with the MSD I would think it would have pulled better to 7K instead its falling off like a stock ls3 intake. Needs more air. That 90mm TB is not helping it.

Jason 98 TA · 08-03-2018, 10:01 AM

I think the numbers are pretty close. Seen 3 of those style builds in the last year make past the 550rwhp number.

Remember the shelf PRC 260 heads and stage 4.2 cam typically go past the 525rwhp range!

Its a great time to be modding the LS3! From shelf heads cam setups making over 550rwhp to running 9 second passes sbe na with shelf heads & cam!

Jason

07-25-2018, 03:04 PM	#1
WHAMMO Drives: 13' 1LE Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 2,642	549rwhp TSP LS7 MSD small bore build 93oct Sorry to post for someone else but I have to; https://www.facebook.com/30782787914...6107072369143/ Still LS3 shortblock, 90mm TB! Cam is 234/246 235' 235' TSP stage 2 ls7 from what I understand. __________________ 13' 1LE Old setup: TSP 231-236/Tick 660/.105 PR, UDP, SW LT 2'' & HFC, stock NPP & H pipe, VR-DRX CAI, air scoop, Goertz1 manifold, 102mm BBK, 26" Toyo DRs, Forgestars R17x10 & F18x8, rear seat delete, remote Pat G tune Autocal, 7400 limiter, Spec Mini Twin. 91oct. 11.90@122.3, 0-60ft 2.0 / 11.99@123.6, 0-60ft 2.1 DA+819 ...519RWHP SAE Solid roller SBE LS3, FED, LLSR, 91oct, 605rwhp N/A. Tuned by Pat G. Build by me. Last edited by WHAMMO; 07-25-2018 at 06:13 PM.

07-30-2018, 10:47 PM	#3
2010reddevil Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Victory Red 6M Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Gulf Coast, TX Posts: 1,424	I'm not gonna comment much but say that I've personally seen that dyno make some skewed numbers. __________________ 2011 2SS 6A Red Jewel Metallic, Vararam Tune CAI, Magnaflow 3" Competition c/b, Speed Engineering 1-7/8 LT's, Circle D 5C, M/T 275/40R20 S/S, HPTuners tune by Ryan@GPI 12.3 @ 112 ACM as of 12/22/19 Gone on 12/28/19 R I P 2010 2SS 6M Victory Red/Black (old ride) CAI intake, Speed Engineering 1 7/8" LT's, X4 base tune, Flowmaster Outlaw axle-back. 12.6 @ 115 SAR as of 9/19/15 Gone but never forgotten.

08-01-2018, 09:42 AM	#5
2010reddevil Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Victory Red 6M Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Gulf Coast, TX Posts: 1,424	Seen a built LS1 stock cube go from making a claimed 507whp to another car where it made only 452whp. Same chassis, only difference is one was a stick and the other was an auto. With that said, the auto car was locked in 3rd gear with converter locked too, so same thing as a stick in 4th. __________________ 2011 2SS 6A Red Jewel Metallic, Vararam Tune CAI, Magnaflow 3" Competition c/b, Speed Engineering 1-7/8 LT's, Circle D 5C, M/T 275/40R20 S/S, HPTuners tune by Ryan@GPI 12.3 @ 112 ACM as of 12/22/19 Gone on 12/28/19 R I P 2010 2SS 6M Victory Red/Black (old ride) CAI intake, Speed Engineering 1 7/8" LT's, X4 base tune, Flowmaster Outlaw axle-back. 12.6 @ 115 SAR as of 9/19/15 Gone but never forgotten.

08-01-2018, 12:34 PM	#7
2010reddevil Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Victory Red 6M Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Gulf Coast, TX Posts: 1,424	How is that possible Bo? A locked auto has less frictional moving parts than a manual? Once the converter is locked, only thing spinning round and round is the direct drum with the 3rd gear clutch packs engaged. Vs a manual that has all of the gears rotating about if the clutch is engaged. __________________ 2011 2SS 6A Red Jewel Metallic, Vararam Tune CAI, Magnaflow 3" Competition c/b, Speed Engineering 1-7/8 LT's, Circle D 5C, M/T 275/40R20 S/S, HPTuners tune by Ryan@GPI 12.3 @ 112 ACM as of 12/22/19 Gone on 12/28/19 R I P 2010 2SS 6M Victory Red/Black (old ride) CAI intake, Speed Engineering 1 7/8" LT's, X4 base tune, Flowmaster Outlaw axle-back. 12.6 @ 115 SAR as of 9/19/15 Gone but never forgotten.

08-01-2018, 02:08 PM	#8
WHAMMO Drives: 13' 1LE Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 2,642	We never see those kind of combos; huge cam, LS7 small bore and MSD. I think those numbers are totally believable. I dont see why it wouldnt crack 525rwhp+ __________________ 13' 1LE Old setup: TSP 231-236/Tick 660/.105 PR, UDP, SW LT 2'' & HFC, stock NPP & H pipe, VR-DRX CAI, air scoop, Goertz1 manifold, 102mm BBK, 26" Toyo DRs, Forgestars R17x10 & F18x8, rear seat delete, remote Pat G tune Autocal, 7400 limiter, Spec Mini Twin. 91oct. 11.90@122.3, 0-60ft 2.0 / 11.99@123.6, 0-60ft 2.1 DA+819 ...519RWHP SAE Solid roller SBE LS3, FED, LLSR, 91oct, 605rwhp N/A. Tuned by Pat G. Build by me.

07-25-2018, 07:10 PM	#2
Arch-City Drives: 2015 Camaro 1LE Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: St. Louis, Mo Posts: 140	I saw this build on facebook also. It seems to be a very solid build, with great power numbers for 93 octane. I would be interested in what compression they are running and if owner has any plans for E85. Great job by all involved. It is truly amazing to see the power numbers and track times people are getting out of these cars.

08-01-2018, 11:15 AM	#6
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	My local dynojet puts locked autos a good bit less than manual cars same build.

08-01-2018, 02:14 PM	#9
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	My buddy has a BTR3 cam and ported heads A6 - 440rwhp My last build before this one was the same except M6 - 478rwhp

08-01-2018, 03:54 PM	#11
lazerlemonta Drives: 2010 C6 1LT Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Virginia Posts: 877 View My Garage	This is a very achievable result. Although with the MSD I would think it would have pulled better to 7K instead its falling off like a stock ls3 intake. Needs more air. That 90mm TB is not helping it. __________________ 2010 C6 JET STREAM BLUE BOLT ONS TO THE EXTREME, GPI 281cc HEADS, Darth_V8r SPEC CAM, FAST 102 INTAKE, CRANK SCRAPER, QUARTER MASTER 7.25" CLUTCH, RPM 3.90 STAGE II DIF, Z51 Gear Set AND E85 Best ET 10.58 @ 131.8 stock heads and stock cam 453/445 SAE 10.62@134.82 GPI 281CC Heads, SS4 Cam and X1 Intake Best 1/8 6.80@105.75 Best MPH 134.82

08-03-2018, 10:01 AM	#12
Jason 98 TA Drives: Camaro Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,669	I think the numbers are pretty close. Seen 3 of those style builds in the last year make past the 550rwhp number. Remember the shelf PRC 260 heads and stage 4.2 cam typically go past the 525rwhp range! Its a great time to be modding the LS3! From shelf heads cam setups making over 550rwhp to running 9 second passes sbe na with shelf heads & cam! Jason