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DangerZL1 · 01-05-2010, 02:41 PM

There are several topics mentioning the excessive orange peel in the new Camaro's finish and I have an idea why there may be more than in the previous version. I've noticed this on every Camaro I've looked at, and the 2010 black seems to have more than my '96 T/A did. I was watching the Ultimate Factory episode on Nat Geo and noticed the Camaro is primed with an electrically charged powder coating process that is baked at 275 degrees before the color coats and clear coats are applied. I've had a few things powder coated before, and the powder coat didn't smooth out quite as smooth as a paint process does. If the surface under the paint is not perfectly smooth, then any finish applied on top of it would take on the texture of the surface underneath. I don't think the 4th gen would have used a powder coating as primer, since it had plastic panels.

CWI · 01-05-2010, 03:34 PM

My 2010 is black and does not have excessive orange peel. It looks great. And 2010s also have plastic front and rear facias, No problem there either.

Timberline · 01-05-2010, 04:16 PM

Mine is not black but my paint is very smooth, Victory red and I have no complaints with quality and I restore, customize and show cars so I have avery critical eye. You have to look real close to see any orange peel in mine but I am sure darker colors show it more.

tyler20c · 01-05-2010, 04:19 PM

Mine is black and I can see the orange peel that your talking about.

cremaley · 01-05-2010, 04:55 PM

mine is Imperial Blue Metallic and is as smooth as a baby's ass.

trm0002 · 01-05-2010, 04:56 PM

Orange peel is exactly as it sounds. Imagine the texture of the outside of an orange- the "bumpy" texture so to speak. Go to one corner of your car and look up/down the entire length IN GOOD LIGHT. "Perfect" paint will look like a mirror reflection down the length of the car. Instead, you will see waves and "bumps". That's orange peel in it's easiest defined terms. It can be removed by wet sanding BUT ONLY BY SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

LS3SSRS · 01-05-2010, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cremaley

mine is Imperial Blue Metallic and is as smooth as a baby's ass.

lucky. mine has orange peel and mis-colored plastic parts(gas cap, front and rear fascia, spoiler lip, mirrors). different shades of blue...

67MellowYellow · 01-05-2010, 05:16 PM

In the Camaros I've looked at on the lots, orange peel varies quite a bit between them. Color and metallic shift on the plastic parts vary too with some being perfect and others making me wonder how they pass QC.

Michael_Js · 01-05-2010, 05:39 PM

Mine is Black and has lots! :(

Camaro_Custom_Painted · 01-05-2010, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DangerouSS

There are several topics mentioning the excessive orange peel in the new Camaro's finish and I have an idea why there may be more than in the previous version. I've noticed this on every Camaro I've looked at, and the 2010 black seems to have more than my '96 T/A did. I was watching the Ultimate Factory episode on Nat Geo and noticed the Camaro is primed with an electrically charged powder coating process that is baked at 275 degrees before the color coats and clear coats are applied. I've had a few things powder coated before, and the powder coat didn't smooth out quite as smooth as a paint process does. If the surface under the paint is not perfectly smooth, then any finish applied on top of it would take on the texture of the surface underneath. I don't think the 4th gen would have used a powder coating as primer, since it had plastic panels.

The orange peel is in the clear coat, not the color coat, so I don't think the primer is to blame.

THUMPER20X · 01-05-2010, 05:58 PM

I did a test bit on mine and blocked the orange peel down. As far as clear thickness its as good as most other GM cars. It is very hard clear. I will probly do the whole car over the winter bit by bit. Not recommended for most people though because the edges will be unforgiving. Ill do it because Im a Wetsanding Jedi.

Camaro_Custom_Painted · 01-05-2010, 06:15 PM

Just to show an example of what your paint can look like if you fix the orange peel (in my case I had it sanded, re-cleared and sanded & buffed) Here is a picture I just took of the hood of my black SS. You can see the reflection of my garage ceiling - a mirror finish! Well worth the expense in my book.

Krozzbow · 01-05-2010, 06:20 PM

I don’t have that orange peel finish look like the ones I had seen lately within the past months. Could this be a problem that started to occur after March 2009?

TonyNo · 01-05-2010, 07:35 PM

I have an IBM that was built the week of 10/12 and it definitely has orange peel. I'll snap a pic after dinner for those that don't know what it looks like.

01-05-2010, 02:41 PM	#1
DangerZL1 Drives: 2023 Black ZL1 Auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: FEMA Region 4 Posts: 2,935	Idea on orange peel There are several topics mentioning the excessive orange peel in the new Camaro's finish and I have an idea why there may be more than in the previous version. I've noticed this on every Camaro I've looked at, and the 2010 black seems to have more than my '96 T/A did. I was watching the Ultimate Factory episode on Nat Geo and noticed the Camaro is primed with an electrically charged powder coating process that is baked at 275 degrees before the color coats and clear coats are applied. I've had a few things powder coated before, and the powder coat didn't smooth out quite as smooth as a paint process does. If the surface under the paint is not perfectly smooth, then any finish applied on top of it would take on the texture of the surface underneath. I don't think the 4th gen would have used a powder coating as primer, since it had plastic panels.

01-05-2010, 03:34 PM	#2
CWI Helping Build America Drives: 2010 2SS/RS,LS3 2013 Duramax 3500HD Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Freeport LPG Export Posts: 3,839 View My Garage	My 2010 is black and does not have excessive orange peel. It looks great. And 2010s also have plastic front and rear facias, No problem there either. __________________ Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit, what a ride!"

01-05-2010, 04:16 PM	#3
Timberline Drives: 2010 SS/RS,LS3,M6,VR Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: USA-1 Posts: 259 View My Garage	Mine is not black but my paint is very smooth, Victory red and I have no complaints with quality and I restore, customize and show cars so I have avery critical eye. You have to look real close to see any orange peel in mine but I am sure darker colors show it more. __________________ 2SS/RS, Victory Red, Black Leather, LS3, 6spd, Polished wheels - R6P -

01-05-2010, 04:56 PM	#6
trm0002 VIN #2G1FT1EW6A9100074 Drives: 2010 CAMARO 2SS/RS RJT VIN 00074 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Buffalo,NY 'burbs Posts: 4,216	Orange peel is exactly as it sounds. Imagine the texture of the outside of an orange- the "bumpy" texture so to speak. Go to one corner of your car and look up/down the entire length IN GOOD LIGHT. "Perfect" paint will look like a mirror reflection down the length of the car. Instead, you will see waves and "bumps". That's orange peel in it's easiest defined terms. It can be removed by wet sanding BUT ONLY BY SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING. __________________

01-05-2010, 05:39 PM	#9
Michael_Js SoCal C5 Family Member Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS - Black w/IOM; 6M Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Diego, CA, USA Posts: 5,299 View My Garage	Mine is Black and has lots! :( __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2010 Black 2SS/RS; 6M; IOM, GFX, sunroof; ADM Race CAI; Zoomers CB; Viper Alarm; Pdaft F&R sways, Adj Endlinks, Rtrailing arms, Camber kit, strut brace, Front Trailing Arm Bushing; SLP Skip-Shift Elim; Tinted lights/windows; Hurst Short-throw; LoJack; Door & Dash ABL Mods; ********; JBA Shorty headers; AACStyle LEDs; Stillen DS rotors, Hawk Ceramic pads; Havoc Blk Chrome wheels: 20x9s; Lingenfelter Blk Al Pedals; RevXtreme Catch Can; Goodridge SS lines; Ported TB; RK Sport hood; Hotchkis chassis brace; KW V3 coilovers;

01-05-2010, 04:19 PM	#4
tyler20c Drives: Black 2010 Camaro SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Valrico, Florida Posts: 250	Mine is black and I can see the orange peel that your talking about.

01-05-2010, 04:55 PM	#5
cremaley 10 SS Drives: 2010 camaro 2SS Imperial Blue Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dacula, Georgia Posts: 62	mine is Imperial Blue Metallic and is as smooth as a baby's ass.

01-05-2010, 05:16 PM	#8
67MellowYellow Drives: 2010 SS/RS ABM M6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: East of Seattle Posts: 85	In the Camaros I've looked at on the lots, orange peel varies quite a bit between them. Color and metallic shift on the plastic parts vary too with some being perfect and others making me wonder how they pass QC.

01-05-2010, 05:58 PM	#11
THUMPER20X GM fix my PAINT U suck! Drives: 2010 Black 1SS/RS 6Spd Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Great Red North Posts: 1,856	I did a test bit on mine and blocked the orange peel down. As far as clear thickness its as good as most other GM cars. It is very hard clear. I will probly do the whole car over the winter bit by bit. Not recommended for most people though because the edges will be unforgiving. Ill do it because Im a Wetsanding Jedi. __________________

01-05-2010, 06:15 PM	#12
Camaro_Custom_Painted Choke on that causality! Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 645	Just to show an example of what your paint can look like if you fix the orange peel (in my case I had it sanded, re-cleared and sanded & buffed) Here is a picture I just took of the hood of my black SS. You can see the reflection of my garage ceiling - a mirror finish! Well worth the expense in my book. Attached Images

01-05-2010, 06:20 PM	#13
Krozzbow Drives: 2LT/BB 3.6 V6 6-M Jun'09 #A9100242 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: New York Posts: 543 View My Garage	I don’t have that orange peel finish look like the ones I had seen lately within the past months. Could this be a problem that started to occur after March 2009?

01-05-2010, 07:35 PM	#14
TonyNo Drives: 2016 2SS, SW Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Chicago Suburbs Posts: 1,079	I have an IBM that was built the week of 10/12 and it definitely has orange peel. I'll snap a pic after dinner for those that don't know what it looks like.

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