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ex-SS-ve · 01-16-2021, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 1JEWLDSSRS

You are gonna have to do a lot more than that to get 800!! One of my friends just did a full Whipple 2.9 upgrade with a cam and AFR heads, dual nozzle meth injection, LT's, pulley swap, exhaust and is a stick car and only made 685rwhp.. At 9lbs of boost..

He must have a old whipple or a bad tune. Ive seen more than a few gen 4 whipple cars making 615-630 rwhp breathing thru stock manifolds and airbox with no other mods on 9 psi boost, 93 oct tune on a mustang dyno.

1JEWLDSSRS · 01-16-2021, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ex-SS-ve

He must have a old whipple or a bad tune. Ive seen more than a few gen 4 whipple cars making 615-630 rwhp breathing thru stock manifolds and airbox with no other mods on 9 psi boost, 93 oct tune on a mustang dyno.

I just double checked with him to make sure and he is only running 7.5lbs boost. I apologize for the incorrect info. Carry on.. lol

racesloth · 01-16-2021, 05:25 PM

If I were doing it all over I would go ESS...

TheFlyingBananaSS · 01-16-2021, 05:36 PM

ECS gives best bang per dollar. My 1500 kit is capable of 800. The 2200 as much as 1300. The key is your fuel system. Go as big as you can afford.

CHRI55 · 01-17-2021, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RupertPupkin

Go turbo and send it. I’m biased to ECS Bc that’s what I did on my Camaro. When I get another vette and build it up, I’m doing turbos.

Yea I wanna TT a vette to

CHRI55 · 01-17-2021, 04:12 AM

So which make the power lower in the rpm

RupertPupkin · 01-18-2021, 11:16 AM

ECS has a restrictor plate which helps with the lower end trq. I’m sure u can apply the same thing to anyone of the units.

CHRI55 · 01-18-2021, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RupertPupkin

ECS has a restrictor plate which helps with the lower end trq. I’m sure u can apply the same thing to anyone of the units.

Thx

eLeSthree · 01-18-2021, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CHRI55

So which make the power lower in the rpm

If you’re after instant power I’d be looking at the LSA, whipple, maggie type blowers.

dreksnot · 01-18-2021, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by eLeSthree

If you’re after instant power I’d be looking at the LSA, whipple, maggie type blowers.

Equivalent peak power, it goes in this order of delivery for the lower end, "instant power":

Top mount SC = Nitrous > Centrifugal SC > Turbos >= NA

Of course, you can combine some of these to get better worlds of power delivery (SC+N2O or T+N2O), and use modifiers too (anti-lag). But, with focusing on the centri, you're more in the linear line of power delivery with more power with more RPMs.

CHRI55 · 01-19-2021, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by eLeSthree

If you’re after instant power I’d be looking at the LSA, whipple, maggie type blowers.

If I wasn't already set up for centri I would

eLeSthree · 01-19-2021, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TheFlyingBananaSS

ECS gives best bang per dollar. My 1500 kit is capable of 800. The 2200 as much as 1300. The key is your fuel system. Go as big as you can afford.

I have to disagree with you.

The tuner kit for ECS 1500 is $6495. The max HP is 800whp

The tuner kit for the ESS G3X is $6095. The max HP is 1000whp.

You do the math. Can you find both of them cheaper, yes, maybe you can.

RupertPupkin · 01-19-2021, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by eLeSthree

I have to disagree with you.

The tuner kit for ECS 1500 is $6495. The max HP is 800whp

The tuner kit for the ESS G3X is $6095. The max HP is 1000whp.

You do the math. Can you find both of them cheaper, yes, maybe you can.

My ECS was 5800$ tax free. When I was pricing out the G3X it exceeded 7k. If it was 6100$ I would’ve bit on that.

eLeSthree · 01-19-2021, 12:11 PM

Maybe they dropped their pricing. The advertised pricing is right there on their websites. I agree if you call a vendor you might be able to get better pricing on either kit. Dont forget to consider, the ECS 1500 is 8 rib. All ESS kits are 10 rib.

https://esstuning.com/gen-5-camaro-s...ger-tuner-kit/

https://eastcoastsupercharging.com/p...en-camaro-263/

If you want cheap the ESS kit with the Vortech V3Si is $5295.

Rup, if you are talking about the G3X kit with fueling options, then yea, its $7000, but you get injectors, ZL1 pump, HPTuners Ngauge and a tune.

ECS's fueling options are injectors and a BAP for $500.
(correct me if I am wrong, just going off their website)

01-16-2021, 05:25 PM	#17
racesloth Dan Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS IOM Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Georgia, USA not the other one Posts: 1,041	If I were doing it all over I would go ESS... __________________ Dan 2010 IOM SS YSI-B, Pat G Cam, Ported CTS-V Heads, ARH LTs MBRP 3" exhaust http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...&highlight=ysi

01-16-2021, 05:36 PM	#18
TheFlyingBananaSS Evil Genius of Chevrolet Drives: 2017 Z06, 2019 XTS, 2013 SS Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: New York Posts: 3,260	ECS gives best bang per dollar. My 1500 kit is capable of 800. The 2200 as much as 1300. The key is your fuel system. Go as big as you can afford. __________________ GPI SS2 VVT cam, ECS Novi 1500 supercharger, Corsa Extreme, Detroit Speed and BMR suspension, Circle D triple disc, Melling oil pump, LS2 chain tensioner, ATI 10% UD, DSX E85 kit, High Energy coils, BTR springs, LS2 Lifter trays, Titanium retainers, hardened push rods, FIC 1000 injectors, ZL1 pump, Mighty Mouse catch can, AEM gauges, Tial BOV, Richmond 3.91 gears, Custom gauge bezels, Speed Engineering headers, Stainless Works HF cats, DSX Aux pump, 710rwhp on E85.

01-18-2021, 11:16 AM	#21
RupertPupkin Drives: 2014 Camaro SS 1Le Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: IL Posts: 1,583	ECS has a restrictor plate which helps with the lower end trq. I’m sure u can apply the same thing to anyone of the units. __________________ 2014 SS 1LE Money Pit/ Forged 402 CAM 22X/24X, .619/.617, 113 LSA/ LS9 Heads FIC 1200cc/DSX Aux Pump//McLeod RXT Clutch 730whp: 630Trq

01-19-2021, 12:11 PM	#28
eLeSthree Drives: 2011 Camaro SS 6sp Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Drivers Seat Posts: 1,904	Maybe they dropped their pricing. The advertised pricing is right there on their websites. I agree if you call a vendor you might be able to get better pricing on either kit. Dont forget to consider, the ECS 1500 is 8 rib. All ESS kits are 10 rib. https://esstuning.com/gen-5-camaro-s...ger-tuner-kit/ https://eastcoastsupercharging.com/p...en-camaro-263/ If you want cheap the ESS kit with the Vortech V3Si is $5295. Rup, if you are talking about the G3X kit with fueling options, then yea, its $7000, but you get injectors, ZL1 pump, HPTuners Ngauge and a tune. ECS's fueling options are injectors and a BAP for $500. (correct me if I am wrong, just going off their website) __________________ 2011 Camaro SS---SOLD TMS Dart 427 FED M311s, ESS Tuning G4 Blower, DSX Triple FP Assembly, DSX FF, FIC1300, Mcleod RXT 1200HD, Edlebrock Pro Flo XT 1158whp 1017wtq. 2010 CTS-V A6 - "Stock" SOLD 630whp 658wtq 2024 F-150 RCSB 5.0 4x4 waiting for tunes...

01-17-2021, 04:12 AM	#20
CHRI55 Streetkingz_chri55 Drives: 2012 2ss/rs Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Greenville, ms Posts: 158 View My Garage	So which make the power lower in the rpm