Color Poll..are the colors good enough?

[DITCHDIGGER]

Originally Posted by MY68RS

You know why abm has been beat to death? its really the only color that anyone has been REAL vocal about... How many GM cars (i really dont know) still can be bought in ABM?
I just seen a HHR the other day in abm... Not sure the year...
Isn't there not trucks in abm? Bring the silly color back... for crying out loud..
It was dropped prematurely anyway.. On the camaro it never really got a chance to sell.... How long of a time frame was it given to fall for 3% before it was pulled?... ( irealize that is a simplistic way of looking at it) Please father...do some string pulling from higher ups on this for all concerned...
I gave up on the ABM but so many people on C5 want it back...
There HAD to be a mistake somewhere... The ABM color thread is the most popular color thread on C5... it is probably the most controversial color other than IOM..... and probably more controversial than IOM in fact...
Do some string pulling...do some screaming...
all any of the higher ups would have to do is spend a day on C5 to realize that ABM is truly missed.... They could spend 10 min in the ABM color thread to realize that..
Have GM bring it back as a "test" for 2012 and 2013.... and see..
IF it truly drops to 3% it WONT. I do not believe that history repeats itself..
How did all the other Chevy vehicles painted in ABM do? Did all those cars suffer a 3% loss? If so, then was did the color continue on ABM for THOSE other newer chevy models and not camaro. Something don't sound right about that?

The same can be said for SGM. How long was it offered on the SS? A month or so? I got passed by an ABM SS the other day. What a beautiful color that is in the sunlight.

[IcePick06]

I wouldn't mind seeing an ABM zl1 a synergy green and a richer orange (like lotus or Lamborghini offers) for 2013. Still this will be my daily driver so im gonna go with a color that wont drive me nuts everyday or attract attention from cops...ashen grey

[fbodfather]

Originally Posted by Elykson

Who are these disciples? I only know one and he seems to be avoiding me, so I don't beat him black and Dusk Blue j/k But who are the others?

Jason Debler -- Clinton Twp, MI

Tim DeYoung - South Holland, IL

Art Schroeder - Winnipeg, Manitoba

Elie Garfinkel - Toronto, Ontario

Cara Ferguson - Helotes, TX

Millie Odell - Dallas, TX

Chris Livote - Chester, NY

Dan Porcaro - Cleveland, OH

Janet Curran - Yucaipa, CA

Jeremy Donovan -Wallops Island, VA

Kevin Kolvenbach - Pine Bush, NY

Maggie Finn - Colton, OR

Selena Muhoberac - Kenner, LA

Sherry Slocum, Akron, OH

Teri Heino - Hillsboro, OR.

8 men
7 women
From all over the U.S. and Canada
All 4 (at the time of choosing) generations of Camaro
Firebird Represented
Corvette Represented
Youngest (at the time of choosing) 19 years of age
Oldest (at the time of choosing) 60ish

They were all either Club Presidents, Web owners, Web moderators, expert Camaro/Corvette Judges, and, in short, they're well known in the enthusiast community where they live.........

Many of them are excellent performance drivers (either Autocross or on a road course)

We have engineers, teacher, guidance counselor, MBAs, Librarian, Service Director, Website creators, Advertising exec, Telecommunications, Computer designer, Student (at the time) ParaLegal, Urban Planner, Business owners........

They have been a very valuable tool, so to speak, in the creation of the 5th gen......and they are the voice of the customer.... (.........and no, none of them came painted Aqua Blue Metallic) (sorry - couldn't resist!)

and if you stalk them, we have a fleet of:














In addition to them: Focus Groups in several cities - also 'Garage Visits to owners of Camaros/Firebirds/Corvettes/Challengers/Mustangs/370s/

[fbodfather]

Originally Posted by MY68RS

I just seen a HHR the other day in abm... Not sure the year...
Isn't there not trucks in abm? Bring the silly color back... for crying out loud..
It was dropped prematurely anyway.. On the camaro it never really got a chance to sell.... How long of a time frame was it given to fall for 3% before it was pulled?... ( irealize that is a simplistic way of looking at it)

Impala

Colorado

Canyon

HHR

Camaro


There's a reason you don't see ABM Impalas and Colorados and Canyons, and HHRs all over the place..........


Pay attention: When we announced that ABM was going to go away?

The.

Volume.

Dropped.

Even.

Further.

It.

Did.

Not.

Go.

Up.

It.

Went.

Downnnnnnnn........................

What does that tell you???


One other thing to consider:

Just because some people say "bring the color back" does NOT mean they're gonna buy one..........

[wilmaya]

At first when the Camaro came out and was considering to get one, I liked ABM. As time went by I lost interest in that color and switched to White. I've allway's stuck to my first color choice on a new car purchase. Not this time. Just waiting for the 29th.

[Z4me]

Originally Posted by fbodfather

Even though you put your order in on Oct 29th - we are not going to start building ZL1s for the public until after the first of the year - you should have plenty of time to change the color should you so desire.....

Do not worry.

Now that's a piece of new info that I was hoping to hear.
Not only for the issue of the paint color, but also some
other choices such as the carbon fiber hood. Knowing
that we can change things since our initial order on
the 29th is helpfull since we may not have on hand at that
time all the info available to us to make an intelligent
descision. Thank You!

[wilmaya]

Originally Posted by Z4me

Now that's a piece of new info that I was hoping to hear.
Not only for the issue of the paint color, but also some
other choices such as the carbon fiber hood. Knowing
that we can change things since our initial order on
the 29th is helpfull since we not have on hand at that
time all the info available to us to make an intelligent
descision. Thank You!

It was also good news for me

[Mikes SS]

Still waiting for GM to suprize us with a dark green metallic found on the 90-92 Camaro!

[blaSSt]

Well I had to check poor & limited as a personal choice. While I will be buying a 2013 ZL1 Vert, I don't like my (self imposed) color choices:

SIM - no, '06 Trailblazer
IBM - no, '98 Camaro
B - no desire to own black again
VR - no desire to own red again
RY - not my choice of yellow
IOM - do not like the tomato red look in twilight
CFM - if offered, no GF has a Black Granite Malibu

That leaves for me: Summit White, Crystal Red, Ashen Gray, maybe custom color

I'll figure something out just not thrilled by any of those choices yet. (But my Synergy is for sale for a reason )

I do appreciate the challenge the production team has with the color pallete. I have met more than half the disciples and we are in great hands with them. Keep up the great work on this fantastic machine!

[htron50]

Originally Posted by fbodfather

Even though you put your order in on Oct 29th - we are not going to start building ZL1s for the public until after the first of the year - you should have plenty of time to change the color should you so desire.....

Do not worry.

Thanks Scott! Wow! That sure is good information to know. Anybody know how easy the process is (and WHAT the process is?) to change a color or option once the order is placed and how it might affect your production place in line? Maybe it makes your car go to the back of the build line?

[1BADZL1]

Originally Posted by fbodfather

What does that tell you???

I love this guy!
It
tells
me
that
people
in
hell
want
ice
water
but
they ain't
likely
to
get
ice
water.
It
also
tells
me
that
I
am
making
a
good
choice
of
sticking
with
ordering
Victory
Red
Metallic
unless
it
drops
way
way
way
down
here
like
abm!

Hey
this
is
easier
than
typing
periods.

[Scarrzz]

Originally Posted by MY68RS

Victory
Red
Metallic

You mean Victory Red, or Crystal Red Metallic (claret) ?

The Victory Red isn't metallic, just shiny.



Is it just me, or does "Claret" just not feel like an appropriate name for a Camaro color? It's a subjective thing, but I wish it were called Crimson Red Metallic.

Doesn't matter much, still looks incredible.

.

[1BADZL1]

Originally Posted by Scarrzz

You mean Victory Red, or Crystal Red Metallic (claret) ?

The Victory Red isn't metallic, just shiny.



Is it just me, or does "Claret" just not feel like an appropriate name for a Camaro color? It's a subjective thing, but I wish it were called Crimson Red Metallic.

Doesn't matter much, still looks incredible.

.

Yea I am so used to saying ABM and Aqua Blue Metallic
it came as a natural!
Victory Red.... hold the metallic please!

[GoldenBear]

Originally Posted by Scarrzz

Is it just me, or does "Claret" just not feel like an appropriate name for a Camaro color? It's a subjective thing, but I wish it were called Crimson Red Metallic.

Doesn't matter much, still looks incredible.
.

A "Claret" always reminds me of the scene at the end of Diamonds Are Forever where Sean Connery and Jill St. John are dining on the deck of a cruise ship.

[Sean Connery tastes the Mouton Rothschild wine served]

Sean Connery: The wine is quite excellent. Although for such a grand meal I would have expected a claret.
Bruce Glover: But of course. Unfortunately our cellar is rather poorly stocked with clarets.
Sean Connery: Mouton Rothschild IS a claret. And, I've smelled that aftershave before, and both times - I've smelled a rat.