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Old 11-21-2009, 03:44 PM   #15
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It is about the entire package, everything in the engine has to work together.

The G6X3 has proven itself in Corvette's for close to 2 years now at our shops and others.

The Camaro you see on here with that cam was all customer installed and tuned. It was not done here, we just supplied the parts.
Don't take this personal because it is not, I am sure it is a fine cam if all your looking for is a dyno queen, the big dip in the torque curve is unacceptable IMPO

I have been building engines and drag racing since 1979 and a smaller cam with stronger torque curve will always out accelerate a big cam with low torque.

Especially for anything driven on the street Acceleration is what it is all about.

Kind of like a Positive displacement VS Centrifugal, Torque is a Blast to drive.

I am sure your line of cams are fine and I am sure you have something more Street oriented that does not give up much HP but makes a stronger torque curve.

There are only so many lobes to choose from

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Old 11-21-2009, 04:18 PM   #16
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Don't take this personal because it is not, I am sure it is a fine cam if all your looking for is a dyno queen, the big dip in the torque curve is unacceptable IMPO

I have been building engines and drag racing since 1979 and a smaller cam with stronger torque curve will always out accelerate a big cam with low torque.

Especially for anything driven on the street Acceleration is what it is all about.

Kind of like a Positive displacement VS Centrifugal, Torque is a Blast to drive.

I am sure your line of cams are fine and I am sure you have something more Street oriented that does not give up much HP but makes a stronger torque curve.

There are only so many lobes to choose from

Ted.
If the torque curve is bad in low rpms why did OrangeChevyII run so fast with this cam after the car bogs to 3000 rpm off the line? You say the tq at that RPM is unacceptable yet it produces 1.61 60ft times where as the stock cam was only able to produce 1.68. If it is unacceptable IYPO the car wouldnt be able to pull itself out of 3k rpm and run 11.29@121 NA. The car is in 1st gear the first 120ft down the track.Half of that distance (60ft) would be below 4k rpm where you "dont like it".
You do know you are only below 5k rpm the first 130ish feet of a 1320ft racetrack right? The car will never see below 5k rpm the other 1190 ft. That is where the peak power really shines and produces NA times a full half second faster than anyone else out there running NA "cam only".For that matter its faster than the heads cam cars. Only ONE NA car is close to the times this G6X3 with its sloppy TQ curve!

It looks to me like you just need a reason why it makes 50 rwhp more.
If it were to make 525rwhp with heads on it would you call BS also?

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Old 11-21-2009, 05:41 PM   #17
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Old 11-21-2009, 05:54 PM   #18
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I like Janetty style; and so far they have been more then helfull for everybody. They are well informed etc...BUT they cant put down the best cam of the vette world (no its not only big talk...go on the corvette forums to see what its about....NUMEROUS NA 10 seconds cars without anything more then a set of headers ,this cam and drag radials. Its recognized as the best road racing cam too. http://www.youtube.com/user/OrangeCh.../2/tPH_vWePCNk
-stock with a tune vs lontubes with a tune
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Old 11-21-2009, 05:56 PM   #19
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look at the upside graph JANETTY because 340 foot pounds at 2050rpm is hardly bad. In fact its BETTER THEN STOCK. And how is almost 100whp at 6500rpm????
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Old 11-21-2009, 06:02 PM   #20
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I like Janetty style; and so far they have been more then helfull for everybody. They are well informed etc...BUT they cant put down the best cam of the vette world (no its not only big talk...go on the corvette forums to see what its about....NUMEROUS NA 10 seconds cars without anything more then a set of headers ,this cam and drag radials. Its recognized as the best road racing cam too. http://www.youtube.com/user/OrangeCh.../2/tPH_vWePCNk
-stock with a tune vs lontubes with a tune
-longtubes, adm cai ,g6x3 and a tune...


How is that cam on the street? Or is it primarily a race cam?
Can that cam be used as a good daily driver cam?

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Old 11-21-2009, 06:09 PM   #21
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How is that cam on the street? Or is it primarily a race cam?
Can that cam be used as a good daily driver cam?

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on the corvette people put this cam on daily drivers and like it...a LOT depends on the tune with a cam. Do a search on youtube for g6x3 ...on www.digitalcorvettes.com and corvetteforum.com
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Old 11-21-2009, 06:16 PM   #22
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Well, I am glad I got everyone to talk it was getting too quiet around here.
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Old 11-21-2009, 06:48 PM   #23
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Well, I am glad I got everyone to talk it was getting too quiet around here.
You certainly bring alot to the camaro5 forum!
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Old 11-21-2009, 07:00 PM   #24
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If the torque curve is bad in low rpms why did OrangeChevyII run so fast with this cam after the car bogs to 3000 rpm off the line? You say the tq at that RPM is unacceptable yet it produces 1.61 60ft times where as the stock cam was only able to produce 1.68. If it is unacceptable IYPO the car wouldnt be able to pull itself out of 3k rpm and run 11.29@121 NA. The car is in 1st gear the first 120ft down the track.Half of that distance (60ft) would be below 4k rpm where you "dont like it".
You do know you are only below 5k rpm the first 130ish feet of a 1320ft racetrack right? The car will never see below 5k rpm the other 1190 ft. That is where the peak power really shines and produces NA times a full half second faster than anyone else out there running NA "cam only".For that matter its faster than the heads cam cars. Only ONE NA car is close to the times this G6X3 with its sloppy TQ curve!

It looks to me like you just need a reason why it makes 50 rwhp more.
If it were to make 525rwhp with heads on it would you call BS also?
Oh, don't get your panties in bunch, Don't forget this it Typing, no Emotion hand gestures, or facial expression.

Since you brought it up a 1.6 anything 60 ft. in 121 mph car is sad, should be going high 1.4s if it had enough torque.

That would put the car in the 10s at 121.

Races are won in the first 60 ft.

Sorry If I seem a little partial to acceleration but my Sled goes 1.1s in 60 ft 4.9s at 140 in 660 ft. and my 73 Camaro goes 1.3s on the rear tires.

You see when I was 19 I had a cam that made big power but it would not 60 ft. so I learned.

All though it was good on the hard compound Pro Trac L-60-15s

Guys Please don't take offense it is all in good fun and discussion only.
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1- Since you brought it up a 1.6 anything 60 ft. in 121 mph car is sad

PLEASEEEEEEEEEE

Guys Please don't take offense it is all in good fun and discussion only.
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Old 11-21-2009, 07:41 PM   #26
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No disrespect to Anthony @ LG Motorsports but i agree with JANNETTYRACING you need a lot of torque to move a 3800Lb + car, After all its not a corvette that is at 3200lb.
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Old 11-21-2009, 08:07 PM   #27
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All though it was good on the hard compound Pro Trac L-60-15s

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Oh dam, I had those tires

TORQUE=
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Old 11-21-2009, 08:11 PM   #28
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I have to tell you guys this cam is alot of fun on the street, and that is where it will spend most of it's time. I am very happy with the work Ted and the guys at Jannetty did, but enough of that. As promised here are the specs on the cam I selected. It is Comp 273Lr gross lift in is .610 and out is .617 with 1.7 rockers. Duration @.050 in is 223, and out is 231. Advertised is 272 in and 280 out,and a 112 LSA. This thing pulls very well in the mid range which makes it a hell of alot of fun on the interstate. As soon as you guys can tell me how to post video I wil let y'all see it.
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