2015 Mustang-FRPP Drag Mods and Times

[Erik427]

Originally Posted by MagnumForceGB

Think the tune is because the track pack uses 5w50 (I think) oil instead of 5w20. That was the 2014 though.

I do believe that the 2015 PP includes a engine recalibration. If this is true, what is the hp/tq difference?

[shaffe]

Unless I missed it, the PP does NOT include a different engine tune.

it includes: strut tower brace, larger radiator, unique chassis tuning, larger rear sway bar, heavy duty front springs, K brace, Brembo 6 piston front brakes, 19X9 and 19X9.5 wheels, unique stability, EPAS and ABS tuning, 3.73 torsen axle gauge pack, and spoiler delete.

that is direct from Ford's build and price

[DivineStrike]

The PP option does not include any additional Engine tuning. As shaffe has mentioned, the only electronic tuning are those done to the Stability control, EPAS and ABS.

Also, as of right now according the the 2015 Owners Manual, the GT PP does not require a different type of oil. 5w20 is listed for all V8 variations regardless of packaging. However the EB is 5w30.

[Erik427]

Originally Posted by shaffe

Unless I missed it, the PP does NOT include a different engine tune.

it includes: strut tower brace, larger radiator, unique chassis tuning, larger rear sway bar, heavy duty front springs, K brace, Brembo 6 piston front brakes, 19X9 and 19X9.5 wheels, unique stability, EPAS and ABS tuning, 3.73 torsen axle gauge pack, and spoiler delete.

that is direct from Ford's build and price

Well if I'm wrong then I am wrong. Better off knowing the truth.

[SpeedIsLife]

Originally Posted by Erik427

Well if I'm wrong then I am wrong. Better off knowing the truth.

Yeah it's easy to see why one would think there was a new engine tune, but there isn't

All GT's, regardless of package, are 435/400 stock. M6 or A6

[NASTY99Z28]

Originally Posted by 87GNX

LTs only add around 8hp PEAK over an offroad X with stock headers. LT's on coyotes have been proven to only add low end torque as the advantage. The Boss mani, offroad x, aed/lund tune is what makes the car run 11's in the 2011-2014s.

Umm that's pretty much what I said......

[VADER SS L99]

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

And to be NHRA legal the S/C car would actually have needed to run an 8 point IIRC.

The NA car would have been fine without it, Ford Racing was just covering their butts from a lawsuit in that case.

5 point roll bar needed for 10.00-11.49. 8 point needed for 9.99 and faster. At least that's what my local tracks do. Also, they and many others interpret the new late model 2008+ cars rule as so long as you haven't messed with any factory safety equipment your good for anything slower than 9.99 without needing any roll bar whatsoever. Some tracks interpret that new rule as if you have modified anything whatsoever on a 2008+ model then you will need a roll bar for 10.00-11.49 but many do it the way my track does.

[ssrs2lt]

Off topic I think lowdown got the hook..

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

5 point roll bar needed for 10.00-11.49. 8 point needed for 9.99 and faster. At least that's what my local tracks do. Also, they and many others interpret the new late model 2008+ cars rule as so long as you haven't messed with any factory safety equipment your good for anything slower than 9.99 without needing any roll bar whatsoever. Some tracks interpret that new rule as if you have modified anything whatsoever on a 2008+ model then you will need a roll bar for 10.00-11.49 but many do it the way my track does.

My local tracks treat like that^. If its 08 or newer and stock you don't need a roll bar. But if its modified you would then need the proper safety equipment.

Originally Posted by ssrs2lt

Off topic I think lowdown got the hook..

Does look that way

[ford20]

Originally Posted by ssrs2lt

Regardless of the drama, the 2.3 appears to be quite the engine. Does GM have a similiar capability to put in the Camaro

I hope they will have one, but as far as I know I don't think GM has a 4 cylinder that can match up against the 2.3

Originally Posted by big hammer

the ecoturd will severely disappoint in the real world.

I highly doubt that to be honest.

Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

5 point roll bar needed for 10.00-11.49. 8 point needed for 9.99 and faster. At least that's what my local tracks do. Also, they and many others interpret the new late model 2008+ cars rule as so long as you haven't messed with any factory safety equipment your good for anything slower than 9.99 without needing any roll bar whatsoever. Some tracks interpret that new rule as if you have modified anything whatsoever on a 2008+ model then you will need a roll bar for 10.00-11.49 but many do it the way my track does.

I thought the new rule from NHRA was as long as the car remained stock you didn't need the added safety gear?

[SpeedIsLife]

Originally Posted by ford20

I hope they will have one, but as far as I know I don't think GM has a 4 cylinder that can match up against the 2.3



I highly doubt that to be honest.



I thought the new rule from NHRA was as long as the car remained stock you didn't need the added safety gear?

Correct.

For example, a stock C7Z and the Hellcats wont need a cage as long as the car is stock. Now if the driver has an exhaust/intake/tune/pulley, etc, then they WILL need cages.

Likewise, even stock cars that are planning on running slicks/DR's will need a DS Safety Loop if going faster than 12.99

[VADER SS L99]

Originally Posted by ford20

I hope they will have one, but as far as I know I don't think GM has a 4 cylinder that can match up against the 2.3



I highly doubt that to be honest.



I thought the new rule from NHRA was as long as the car remained stock you didn't need the added safety gear?

NHRA has been really vague about what "unaltered" actually means and they have yet to clarify the term. It seems they are leaving it up to the tracks discretion. To my knowledge they have yet to clarify the term even though they have been asked repeatedly about it since late 2012. It seems they won't clarify it to cover their butts just in case. To some unaltered means anything as in anything. CAI, cat back, whatever. If you have even the slightest mod on a 2008+ and run below 11.50 you need a roll bar. To others (and I agree with this) it means unaltered factory safety equipment. Think about it. A Chevrolet Cruze has to get the same safety certification at certain speeds that a 2015 Z06 or Hellcat does and those 2 cars are going to run mid 10's at some tracks bone rock stock. Also, I would much rather be in a modern Mustang, Challenger or Camaro in a 135mph crash than a fox body with a 5 point cage in a 135mph crash. I think this is something that the NHRA recognizes and why they made the rule. The reason they put the term unaltered in there is to cover their butts just in case you have altered your safety equipment along with anything else.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

NHRA has been really vague about what "unaltered" actually means and they have yet to clarify the term. It seems they are leaving it up to the tracks discretion. To my knowledge they have yet to clarify the term even though they have been asked repeatedly about it since late 2012. It seems they won't clarify it to cover their butts just in case. To some unaltered means anything as in anything. CAI, cat back, whatever. If you have even the slightest mod on a 2008+ and run below 11.50 you need a roll bar. To others (and I agree with this) it means unaltered factory safety equipment. Think about it. A Chevrolet Cruze has to get the same safety certification at certain speeds that a 2015 Z06 or Hellcat does and those 2 cars are going to run mid 10's at some tracks bone rock stock. Also, I would much rather be in a modern Mustang, Challenger or Camaro in a 135mph crash than a fox body with a 5 point cage in a 135mph crash. I think this is something that the NHRA recognizes and why they made the rule. The reason they put the term unaltered in there is to cover their butts just in case you have altered your safety equipment along with anything else.

Yes sir. I agree that is also up to the tracks discretion. I remember when I had my 07 GT that was a mid 13 second car, my local track almost wouldn't let me run on my DRs because I didn't have a driveshaft safety loop. All depends on the track

[SEVEN-OH JOE]

Originally Posted by ford20

I hope they will have one, but as far as I know I don't think GM has a 4 cylinder that can match up against the 2.3

2002: Rear-Wheel Drive Chevrolet Cavalier - John Lingenfelter

Ran a career best elapsed time of 6.993 seconds at 197.67 mph at Pomona (NHRA World Record at that date).

2.0L EcoTec Turbo 4-cylinder. Stock OEM block.

Solstice-Sky-Cavalier OEM versions capable of 500+ hp with stock crank.