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Old 08-05-2013, 04:58 PM   #659
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Old 08-05-2013, 05:02 PM   #660
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Old 08-05-2013, 05:04 PM   #661
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Old 08-05-2013, 05:31 PM   #662
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Your 2014 sounds great! Did you order your 2014 with a vinyl roof, too?
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Old 08-05-2013, 05:34 PM   #663
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The only info I've seen shows the Z28 will be 300 pounds lighter than the ZL1, and 100 pounds lighter than the SS. So I would think the weight would stay the same, putting the Z28 at 3800, the SS at 3900 and ZL1 at 4100, approximately.
It has been said the trunk lid is now aluminum. The Z/28 looks to be closer to 3,700.
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Old 08-05-2013, 05:52 PM   #664
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that little half spoiler, ugh. sorry but that rearend is a trainwreck. The front is a bit better but actually looks worse with these new pics. whats going on with that lower grill's half opening haha
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Old 08-05-2013, 06:19 PM   #665
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I have to admit I do not like how the lower grill curves and does not come to a peak like the opening does. Looks like it wasn't designed correctly.
Holy crap the yesman admits to actually NOT liking something that Chevrolet produced. Kudos for standing tall my friend. LOL
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Old 08-05-2013, 06:52 PM   #666
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Holy crap the yesman admits to actually NOT liking something that Chevrolet produced. Kudos for standing tall my friend. LOL
I am NOT a yesman, I call them as I see them. Not everything on the refresh is perfect, i am sure if it came with different tail lights such as ones like the corvette's you would have haters of it too , but still it's not as bad as many of you haters make it out to be either.
Remember many owners add or take off stuff the Current Camaro has. That means not everyone is 100% happy with it either. Just look at everyone that have changed hoods, spoilers, wheels, ground effects, changing lights to HID's and LED's , putting in different grills and I could go on and on, the 14's will have people changing things too as the aftermarket comes around. Some of you are so closed minded thinking the 10-13 Camaros are the only thing that they should ever build. Again leaving them alone with no changes is certain death. Changing them will bring NEW BUYERS IN...if you like your current car then KEEP IT! Nobody is holding a gun to your head and are going to make you buy a 14 or a 6th Gen.
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Old 08-05-2013, 06:56 PM   #667
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So in addition to the front and rear changes the spoiler now becomes that little molded bump on the back of the trunk? All that seems to ensure is that now you can't put an aftermarket spoiler on.
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Old 08-05-2013, 06:58 PM   #668
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I have to admit I do not like how the lower grill curves and does not come to a peak like the opening does. Looks like it wasn't designed correctly.
I'm glad you pointed that out, just one more thing to add to the do not like column. I'll be content to wait for the 6th gens at this point, since I love my 11 more and more.
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Old 08-05-2013, 07:05 PM   #669
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So in addition to the front and rear changes the spoiler now becomes that little molded bump on the back of the trunk? All that seems to ensure is that now you can't put an aftermarket spoiler on.
What makes you think the aftermarket won't design one for it? It's the same trunk lid that the RS models that have a factory spoiler comes with. In fact like many did with 10-13 Camaros that didn't come with a spoiler, they buy a factory spoiler and add it to theirs.
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Old 08-05-2013, 07:08 PM   #670
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I am NOT a yesman, I call them as I see them. Not everything on the refresh is perfect but it's not as bad as many of you haters make it out to be either. Remember many owners add or take off stuff the Current Camaro has. That means not everyone is 100% happy with it either. Just look at everyone that have changed hoods, spoilers, ground effects, changing lights to HID's and LED's , putting in different grills and I could go on and on, the 14's will have people changing things too as the aftermarket comes around. Some of you are so closed minded thinking the 10-13 Camaros are the only thing that they should ever build. Again leaving them alone with no changes is certain death. Changing them will bring NEW BUYERS IN...if you like your current car then KEEP IT! Nobody is holding a gun to your head and are going to make you buy a 14 or a 6th Gen.
So you can call as it you see them for the positive 100's of times but if others call it as they see them in the negative then you have a problem with that? I find it funny that you even know those of who hate it or not.
And don't worry I won't buy it. You can have the Z28 I was going to buy before I saw the job they did on the re-fresh. Hopefully they hire some new designers that will stick to the American muscle car roots for the next generation and not head in the direction they have started with this euro/ femine look.
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Old 08-05-2013, 07:12 PM   #671
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