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UCI CamaroFan · 03-11-2013, 01:43 AM

So. People say that the reason why the Camaro has crappy paint quality is because GM must use water based paint, which is less durable than solvent based paint. But, what if I don't buy that argument? The Camaro is built and assembled in Canada, where the EPA has no jurisdiction.

So why did GM skimp on the paint quality?

Milkdudd · 03-11-2013, 02:16 AM

ONLY a guess, but maybe Canada's "EPA" is even more corrupt/incompetent than ours.

buckeyemike · 03-11-2013, 02:34 AM

goddammit, did we really need ANOTHER thread about the friggin paint?

mikeyg36 · 03-11-2013, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by buckeyemike

goddammit, did we really need ANOTHER thread about the friggin paint?

It's not about the paint, it's about the EPA.

The Canadian part has nothing to do with it since the cars are sold in the US. It has to meet EPA requirements in order for them to approve it, hence why automakers try to meet CAFE laws and fuel economy numbers.

biggerisbetter · 03-11-2013, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by buckeyemike

goddammit, did we really need ANOTHER thread about the friggin paint?

hahaha

babaron · 03-11-2013, 06:26 AM

So who makes a car now with a really good quality paint and why is it that they can and GM can't?

buckeyemike · 03-11-2013, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyg36

It's not about the paint, it's about the EPA.

The Canadian part has nothing to do with it since the cars are sold in the US. It has to meet EPA requirements in order for them to approve it, hence why automakers try to meet CAFE laws and fuel economy numbers.

So this question couldn't have been posed in the other thread we currently have regarding the paint and why it's so horrible?

mikeyg36 · 03-11-2013, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by buckeyemike

So this question couldn't have been posed in the other thread we currently have regarding the paint and why it's so horrible?

If you don't like threads about paint, don't click on the damn thing. I for one am interested in the topic of these BS regulations causing the bad paint.

mikeyg36 · 03-11-2013, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by buckeyemike

So this question couldn't have been posed in the other thread we currently have regarding the paint and why it's so horrible?

If you don't like threads about paint, don't click on the damn thing. I for one am interested in the topic of these BS regulations causing the bad paint.

SlingShot · 03-11-2013, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyg36

If you don't like threads about paint, don't click on the damn thing. I for one am interested in the topic of these BS regulations causing the bad paint.

There's the rub, you really aren't interested in the paint itself. You are more concerned about voicing your opinion on the man instilling regulations that affect your life.

crateish · 03-11-2013, 09:58 AM

Having better paint on cars would be So worth filling kids lungs with poison and having toxic tap water.

You can thank that librul Richard Nixon!

Stoopid gubberment!

*The_Blur* · 03-11-2013, 10:17 AM

The EPA has legal jurisdiction over GM due to GM products being sold in the US. Nissan, Ferrari, and every other international brand sold here also have to adhere to EPA standards.

SteelCamaro · 03-11-2013, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Blur

The EPA has legal jurisdiction over GM due to GM products being sold in the US. Nissan, Ferrari, and every other international brand sold here also have to adhere to EPA standards.

Yep, my Subaru is the same way. When I bought it they went into the whole spiel of trying to sell me the Teflon-based extra protective coating application because of the water-based paint.

2010SS2SS · 03-11-2013, 10:37 AM

Another paint thread from someone who doesn't own a Camaro? OP lists a 4 - Runner, do you own a Camaro?

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Milkdudd Drives: Saturn XR V6 Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Michigan Posts: 290	ONLY a guess, but maybe Canada's "EPA" is even more corrupt/incompetent than ours.

03-11-2013, 02:34 AM	#3
buckeyemike Drives: 2012 Camaro LS Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Scott AFB Posts: 597	goddammit, did we really need ANOTHER thread about the friggin paint?

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babaron Totally into it Drives: '67 427vette/'11 Pacecar/'02 BMW ci Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 653 View My Garage	So who makes a car now with a really good quality paint and why is it that they can and GM can't?

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2010SS2SS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS 2SS Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Cypress, texas Posts: 1,302	Another paint thread from someone who doesn't own a Camaro? OP lists a 4 - Runner, do you own a Camaro?