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l008com · 10-27-2010, 01:00 PM

What is it that gives the clutch pedal it's spring-loaded feel? Is it the springs in the clutch itself, or is it a spring on the pedal? I ask because the feel of the clutch on my car is horrible. Even after driving it for 9 months now, I still stall it regularly. The clutch lets out easily, then suddenly right about the time it catches, lets out really firmly. Every other stick I've owned, had a continuous feel throughout the whole stroke of the clutch pedal. The pedal in my camaro seems to be design to make you stall the car. You either have to gun it and drop it, or let it out super slow and have a very slow take off. There's no middle of the road, you can't just do a normal speed takeoff. Makes me miss my RX-8 in a big way. But back to the point. If the issue is the spring in the pedal, I can theoretically swap it out for something with a more accurate feel, right?

SS 376 · 10-27-2010, 01:56 PM

Are you talking about the 2SS or the 2LT you drive?

l008com · 10-27-2010, 01:56 PM

Crap. 2LT. Could a moderator please change the title of this thread?

06blownSS · 10-27-2010, 02:10 PM

nothing is wrong with your clutch. I believe there are springs in the clutch pedal that make it ''bounce'' back. There are threads on here explaining how to remove it. But I can't imagine why in 9 months you can't get used to it. I drive an SS so I don't see how a V6 would be any harder than mine

l008com · 10-27-2010, 02:12 PM

I am used to it. But its like if someone trips you every time you start walking, you're still going to fall alot, no matter how used to it you are. Its just a horrible clutch for regular driving. Its good if you want to spin your tires every time you move but, I don't.

Russell James · 10-27-2010, 02:34 PM

The pressure plate has the springs that push back against the throwout bearing hydraulic pressure. The clutch pedal also has a spring that helps it return to the up position.

Notneb · 10-27-2010, 03:14 PM

I feel ya, I'm debating taking out the spring on the pedal inside the car...however I'm afraid it won't spring all the way up and cause my clutch to wear or some "murphy's law" catastrophe... I hate the way the spring on the pedal rockets it at you right as the clutch disengages...

Predator/2SS · 10-27-2010, 03:19 PM

mine does the same thing. I think it is a bad design and GM needs to figure out how to get it fixed

*GTAHVIT* · 10-27-2010, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by l008com

Crap. 2LT. Could a moderator please change the title of this thread?

Fixed.

*GTAHVIT* · 10-27-2010, 03:29 PM

The pressure plate has "springs" that fly out and help engage the clutch with more pressure.

So the pedal feels "lighter" at the bottom and gets heavier as you engage the clutch against the fly wheel. Some after market clutches actually put sliding weights on the springs to help them fly open when spinning with the fly wheel.

So, once the pressure plate and clutch begin to spin with the fly wheel the springs fly open due to the centifugal force and it makes the pedal jump back when releasing the pedal.

It is completely normal in higher power cars to prevent slipage.

hope that helps.

l008com · 10-27-2010, 03:31 PM

The problem is the line between 'lighter' and 'heavier' is razor thin. I think my old acura TL had about as much torque as a camaro, and its clutch was very consistent and normal, like every other car i've driven. Every single other thing about that TL sucked ass, but the feel of the clutch was good

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*GTAHVIT* · 10-27-2010, 03:36 PM

Agreed. I think the V6 cars could probably have a smoother clutch and get away with it fine. Maybe the v6 inherets some of the SS personality... It is a camaro afterall..

stanwilliams · 10-29-2010, 12:05 AM

Pull the rockover center spring out of the pedal. I did mine 6 months ago and like it a lot better. If you don't like it you can always put it back.

l008com · 10-29-2010, 10:18 AM

Can you show me how?

10-27-2010, 01:00 PM	#1
l008com Drives: 2013 1LT Crystal Red/Beige Manual Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Stoneham, MA Posts: 735	Clutch Resistance (2LT) What is it that gives the clutch pedal it's spring-loaded feel? Is it the springs in the clutch itself, or is it a spring on the pedal? I ask because the feel of the clutch on my car is horrible. Even after driving it for 9 months now, I still stall it regularly. The clutch lets out easily, then suddenly right about the time it catches, lets out really firmly. Every other stick I've owned, had a continuous feel throughout the whole stroke of the clutch pedal. The pedal in my camaro seems to be design to make you stall the car. You either have to gun it and drop it, or let it out super slow and have a very slow take off. There's no middle of the road, you can't just do a normal speed takeoff. Makes me miss my RX-8 in a big way. But back to the point. If the issue is the spring in the pedal, I can theoretically swap it out for something with a more accurate feel, right? __________________ FS: 245/50R19 Snow Tires

10-27-2010, 01:56 PM	#3
l008com Drives: 2013 1LT Crystal Red/Beige Manual Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Stoneham, MA Posts: 735	Crap. 2LT. Could a moderator please change the title of this thread? __________________ FS: 245/50R19 Snow Tires

10-27-2010, 02:10 PM	#4
06blownSS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Montreal!! Posts: 753	nothing is wrong with your clutch. I believe there are springs in the clutch pedal that make it ''bounce'' back. There are threads on here explaining how to remove it. But I can't imagine why in 9 months you can't get used to it. I drive an SS so I don't see how a V6 would be any harder than mine __________________ Black on Black on Black 2010 Camaro 2SS LS3;K&N intake, Dynatech 1 7/8 catted LTs, Borla S Cat Back, Eibach prokit, Pfadt rear trailing arms, ZL-1 driveline, BTR Stage III Cam, Tuned by Performance Redline 444.1whp & 442.9 ft-lb

10-27-2010, 02:12 PM	#5
l008com Drives: 2013 1LT Crystal Red/Beige Manual Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Stoneham, MA Posts: 735	I am used to it. But its like if someone trips you every time you start walking, you're still going to fall alot, no matter how used to it you are. Its just a horrible clutch for regular driving. Its good if you want to spin your tires every time you move but, I don't. __________________ FS: 245/50R19 Snow Tires

10-27-2010, 03:19 PM	#8
Predator/2SS Drives: 2010 Summit White 2ss/rs M6 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Surprise,AZ Posts: 73 View My Garage	mine does the same thing. I think it is a bad design and GM needs to figure out how to get it fixed __________________

10-27-2010, 01:56 PM	#2
SS 376 Drives: 2010 IBM 1SS (Former) Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NoVA Posts: 2,032	Are you talking about the 2SS or the 2LT you drive?

10-27-2010, 02:34 PM	#6
Russell James Drives: '15 SS 1LE, '69 Z28 drag car Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Mich Posts: 4,483	The pressure plate has the springs that push back against the throwout bearing hydraulic pressure. The clutch pedal also has a spring that helps it return to the up position.

10-27-2010, 03:14 PM	#7
Notneb Drives: 2006 Dodge Viper Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Washington Posts: 133 View My Garage	I feel ya, I'm debating taking out the spring on the pedal inside the car...however I'm afraid it won't spring all the way up and cause my clutch to wear or some "murphy's law" catastrophe... I hate the way the spring on the pedal rockets it at you right as the clutch disengages...

10-27-2010, 03:29 PM	#10
GTAHVIT Blessed Drives: 2013 Sonic RS MT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Saint Augustine FL Posts: 28,444 View My Garage	The pressure plate has "springs" that fly out and help engage the clutch with more pressure. So the pedal feels "lighter" at the bottom and gets heavier as you engage the clutch against the fly wheel. Some after market clutches actually put sliding weights on the springs to help them fly open when spinning with the fly wheel. So, once the pressure plate and clutch begin to spin with the fly wheel the springs fly open due to the centifugal force and it makes the pedal jump back when releasing the pedal. It is completely normal in higher power cars to prevent slipage. hope that helps. __________________ Click image to see build thread. PQ - "the love of cars. It's a boys first step toward manhood and a mans last hold on boyhood." Fbodfather - "We do not want to use the Z28 moniker on a car that does not deserve this hallowed name." The_Blur - "Let's not confuse competitors with equals."

10-27-2010, 03:31 PM	#11
l008com Drives: 2013 1LT Crystal Red/Beige Manual Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Stoneham, MA Posts: 735	The problem is the line between 'lighter' and 'heavier' is razor thin. I think my old acura TL had about as much torque as a camaro, and its clutch was very consistent and normal, like every other car i've driven. Every single other thing about that TL sucked ass, but the feel of the clutch was good . __________________ FS: 245/50R19 Snow Tires

10-27-2010, 03:36 PM	#12
GTAHVIT Blessed Drives: 2013 Sonic RS MT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Saint Augustine FL Posts: 28,444 View My Garage	Agreed. I think the V6 cars could probably have a smoother clutch and get away with it fine. Maybe the v6 inherets some of the SS personality... It is a camaro afterall.. __________________ Click image to see build thread. PQ - "the love of cars. It's a boys first step toward manhood and a mans last hold on boyhood." Fbodfather - "We do not want to use the Z28 moniker on a car that does not deserve this hallowed name." The_Blur - "Let's not confuse competitors with equals."

10-29-2010, 12:05 AM	#13
stanwilliams 3000 hp 648 ci beast Drives: 86 Outlaw 10.5 Camaro, 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Marion, KS Posts: 154	Pull the rockover center spring out of the pedal. I did mine 6 months ago and like it a lot better. If you don't like it you can always put it back. __________________ 2SS/RS, LS3, 6M, IOM w/black hockey, IO interior, sunroof mods: ******** setup. Whipple supercharger....Need suspension upgrades now... 4" stroker kit, ARH, cam on my wish list.

10-29-2010, 10:18 AM	#14
l008com Drives: 2013 1LT Crystal Red/Beige Manual Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Stoneham, MA Posts: 735	Can you show me how? __________________ FS: 245/50R19 Snow Tires

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