2011 mustang v6 vs 2010-11 camaro v6

[mr_desmo]

304 vs 305 hp...camaro is geared more aggressively then the base stang while the perf pack stang is bout the same as the cam....give or take...
-the stang is 3450 pounds base with 2.73
-the stang is 3520 pounds with 3.31 and perf pack
so up to 300 pounds difference...

Both the ls cam and stock manual stang comes with the same shitty radial ta bg goodrich


Who dominates?

[Sax1031]

The only thing we have to go off of right now is the test by the mags.

Motor trend ran a 14.4 @ 98 (if I remember correctly) in the v6 camaro and ran 13.7 @ 102 in the v6 stang.

[khabboub]

wel more over i think it was motor trend that dynoed the mustang and got 308 hp out of it. so far the mustang is beating the camaro in all areas.

[DGthe3]

The 2011 V6 Mustangs (at least those with 3.73 gears) are much faster than the 2010 V6 Camaros. It's unknown what the regular V6 stang's will run though they will definitely be hindered by their gearing. We don't know what the 2011 Camaro will have, there have been hints that it will get more power. A track pack with more aggressive gearing and SS suspension and brakes is also possible, though there hasn't been very much talk of this happening. Would it be enough to match the weight difference? I don't think so, but it could bring them back to within a tenth or two. Time will tell.

Originally Posted by khabboub

wel more over i think it was motor trend that dynoed the mustang and got 308 hp out of it. so far the mustang is beating the camaro in all areas.

That was a flywheel estimate, and they never ran a V6 Camaro on a dyno (not that I've read anyway) so its a pretty meaningless number, other than the fact that it is very close to the advertised power of 305.

Which brings me to another issue. The V6 Mustang track pack is much faster than V6 Camaros, while the GT's are slightly faster than SS's. Shouldn't it be the other way around? It looks like the V6 isn't under rated, yet the 5.0 very well could be. Roughly equal weight difference so that isn't it. Something doesn't seem right. The V8 numbers feel right, but not those V6's.

[Sax1031]

The V6 has more of a weight advantage over the camaro than the the V8 does, but not much.

And the gearing option on the V6 is 3.31 not 3.73.

[Sax1031]

Until we see them ran on the same day/surface the numbers from Motor Trend are pretty useless.

[2SSARMY]

TT that v6!

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

The V6 has more of a weight advantage over the camaro than the the V8 does, but not much.

And the gearing option on the V6 is 3.31 not 3.73.

My mistake. Must have assumed it was the same as in the GT. That makes it even more puzzling since it practically eliminates any gearing advantage over the Camaro.

You're also right on the weight, the difference in the difference (?) is roughly 50 lbs. Not terribly meaningful.

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

My mistake. Must have assumed it was the same as in the GT. That makes it even more puzzling since it practically eliminates any gearing advantage over the Camaro.

You're also right on the weight, the difference in the difference (?) is roughly 50 lbs. Not terribly meaningful.

My bet would be skill of the driver.

The trap speed comparison is more important than the ET.

[mrray13]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

The V6 has more of a weight advantage over the camaro than the the V8 does, but not much.

And the gearing option on the V6 is 3.31 not 3.73.

Right, but I'll wager most v6 Mustang's get the 2.73, or whatever it is, gearset. The majority GT buyer will probably have the performance package, but I can't see it in the v6 side. If that's the case, I'm all over it, lol. Although, I think I'll do alright next to the 3.31 car too. Even if I lose, they are the newer car now, so I'll have the same excuse they have this year.

Anyway, bring them on already!! The music is turned up, the beer has been drank, it's time to get this dance on!!

Win, lose or draw, it's time to have some fun!!

[snakekiller]

i think the v6 camaro feels its weight more, than the SS
ultimately giving it 14's in the 1/4 mile. the SS on the other hand has more torque
and slightly more hp, than the GT helping it in the 1/4 mile. the weight isn't helping ether
the v6 or the SS.

now where is the TT engine's
ford ecoboost 3.5L vs jay leno's TT camaro v6.

[syr74]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Which brings me to another issue. The V6 Mustang track pack is much faster than V6 Camaros, while the GT's are slightly faster than SS's. Shouldn't it be the other way around? It looks like the V6 isn't under rated, yet the 5.0 very well could be. Roughly equal weight difference so that isn't it. Something doesn't seem right. The V8 numbers feel right, but not those V6's.

Actually, I think the V6 numbers hold out. Weight difference between the V6 cars is in the 300lb neighborhood, throw in the slightly steeper gears on the Ford and you have a fairly meaningful advantage already and we haven't even gotten to power (assuming you can get the car too hook the above should be worth 3 to 4 tenths by itself) And while the consensus seems to be that the powertrains are evenly matched, in reality the 3.7L has a genuine if slight edge over the 3.6L.

Torque peaks are only 7lb ft apart, but the 280lb ft the Mustang cranks out shows up at 4250rpm while the 273lb-ft the Camaro produces doesn't arrive until 5200rpm. A torque peak which is slightly higher and which arrives 1000rpm earlier in the power band is going to produce a genuine advantage, particularly when coupled with the steeper gears the Mustang offers. Throw in a tenth or so for that and were at .4 to .5 tenths difference which is pretty close to the actual difference between these two cars.

[StangKiller818]

the v6 mustang will beat the v6 camaro hands down. all we can do is wait to see what gm does to the 2011 v6 camaro. i give gm the thumbs up for taking on the challenge. they answer back pretty fast that ford is not going to run away in this race. lets go GM make us proud!!!!!!

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by mr_desmo

Who dominates?

I'm waiting for the '11 Camaros to come out before I offer any more opinions in these threads...