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*Mr. Wyndham* · 10-11-2010, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay J

The Tundra's makeup consists of the most US parts/assembly though doesn't it?

No, Silverado and F-150 have more domestic content. A misleading rumor started by someone after learning there was a substantial amount of domestic content in the tundra. It's not that substantial, though - nor does it change the fact it's still engineered/built/designed/sold by a foreign company ("follow the money").

And even if it were true, it doesn't do anything about the fact it sucks.

BACK TO 'OFFICIAL' PISSING CONTESTS BETWEEN BRANDS!!!

Lava · 10-11-2010, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Not *technically* true. GM trucks (Seirra + Silverado) have outsold the Ford for a long time.

Actually Your wrong. Total combined most recently published, still do not equal the sales of the F series
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/06...uck-sales.html

Top 10 Pickup Truck Sales in May 2010
RankYTD SalesYTD Change Year-Over-YearMonthly
1Ford F-Series+34.9%May 201049,858

193,843 May 2009 33,381
2Chevrolet Silverado+8.5%May 201033,690

135,788 May 2009 31,463
3Ram Trucks-14%May 201017,298

69,005May 2009 15,516
4GMC Sierra+7.6%May 201011.305

44,167 May 2009 10,272
5Toyota Tacoma-2.8%May 20108,630

42,550May 2009 10,162
6Toyota Tundra+22.6%May 20108,491

37,597May 2009 6,414
7Ford Ranger+14.5%May 20106,651

24,165May 2009 5,289
8Nissan Frontier+53.4%May 20103,739

15,509May 2009 3,111
9Chevrolet Colorado-30.2%May 20102,535

9,776May 2009 3,610
10Nissan Titan+26.6%May 20102,063

9,516May 2009 1,623

FenwickHockey65 · 10-11-2010, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Lava

Actually Your wrong. Total combined most recently published, still do not equal the sales of the F series
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/06...uck-sales.html

The GMT-900s outsold the F-series for some time before Ford revamped them.

Synyster · 10-11-2010, 09:07 PM

Personally, I'd NEVER buy any truck besides a Ford. My F150 I sold for my Camaro was a real workhorse. 165k miles the day it was sold. Not once did it need a rebuild or any serious warranty work.

Same goes for the Super Duties. My uncle's 7.3L F250 is well over 400k miles and is just breaking in. Though I hate to say the 6.0 and 6.4 don't seem to fulfill the tasks. Besides those motors though, Ford's new 6.7 seemed to be extremely promising before the 2011 Super Duty released and so far they've definitely proven themselves.

Still, my dream truck would be a new F250 with a Cummins conversion. Best of both worlds.

btw, please don't take any of the above as solid data, I'm only one person with one opinion.

Muscle Master · 10-11-2010, 09:32 PM

I'm not really into trucks but if I had to buy one.. it would be a SVT raptor

Sleestack · 10-11-2010, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Muscle Master

I'm not really into trucks but if I had to buy one.. it would be a SVT raptor

Who cares about whether a truck tows 10,000lbs max, or 10,300lbs. Ford's offerings make the GMs look like circa 1990 models, and have great interiors.

a_Username · 10-11-2010, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sleestack

Who cares about whether a truck tows 10,000lbs max, or 10,300lbs. Ford's offerings make the GMs look like circa 1990 models, and have great interiors.

Some of those same people would say who cares if you can run a 12.5 second quarter mile.

FenwickHockey65 · 10-11-2010, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sleestack

Who cares about whether a truck tows 10,000lbs max, or 10,300lbs. Ford's offerings make the GMs look like circa 1990 models, and have great interiors.

People who actually use trucks the way they're supposed to be used care.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 10-11-2010, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sleestack

Who cares about whether a truck tows 10,000lbs max, or 10,300lbs. Ford's offerings make the GMs look like circa 1990 models, and have great interiors.

I think the same thing....about the F-150s.

Marc 85Z28 · 10-12-2010, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Lava

Actually Your wrong.

Comparing Silverado/Sierra vs F150...
GM/Ford sales:

2001 - 926205/823681
2002 - 854961/813701
2003 - 880991/845586
2004 - 894524/939511
2005 - 935468/901463
2006 - 846805/796039
2007 - 826500/690589
2008 - 633609/515513
2009 - 428386/413625

Ford sold more trucks in only 1 year of the last 10. GM sold more trucks in 01, 02, 03, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, and soon to be 2010. GM sold nearly a half million more

Think that's hard to swallow? Wait until you find out the F-body outsold the Mustang from 67-02!

Synyster · 10-12-2010, 08:22 PM

I'd still take the Ford truck over any other truck, despite sales. As I'm sure a lot of y'all would take a Chevy or Dodge over the competition. My dad had always only bought F150s so that's how I grew up, with my first vehicle being his last F150.

derklug · 10-12-2010, 11:42 PM

The best of all worlds would be a Cummins with an Allison trans in a Ford body. Make them like semi's, the manufacturer makes the body, you spec the drivetrain.

Lava · 10-14-2010, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc 85Z28

Comparing Silverado/Sierra vs F150...
GM/Ford sales:

2001 - 926205/823681
2002 - 854961/813701
2003 - 880991/845586
2004 - 894524/939511
2005 - 935468/901463
2006 - 846805/796039
2007 - 826500/690589
2008 - 633609/515513
2009 - 428386/413625

Ford sold more trucks in only 1 year of the last 10. GM sold more trucks in 01, 02, 03, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, and soon to be 2010. GM sold nearly a half million more

Think that's hard to swallow? Wait until you find out the F-body outsold the Mustang from 67-02!

Thats is just false information. You are comparing All GMC/Chevy trucks to one Ford Model the F-150. I call
You are diliberately using numbers to your liking. Where is your proof? I posted mine. I really don't care who sells more but actual numbers don't lie. I have no loyalty to any of them. None pay any of my bills so I buy what I like. I owned 6 Mustangs in the past and this is my first Camaro. No trash talking. I liked the car so I bought it. ANyway, if General Motors were outselling Ford, why would it even care to make a challenge to somone they were beating already? Thx for the info but it looks like its just your opinion not fact.

FenwickHockey65 · 10-14-2010, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lava

Thats is just false information. You are comparing All GMC/Chevy trucks to one Ford Model the F-150. I call
You are diliberately using numbers to your liking. Where is your proof? I posted mine. I really don't care who sells more but actual numbers don't lie. I have no loyalty to any of them. None pay any of my bills so I buy what I like. I owned 6 Mustangs in the past and this is my first Camaro. No trash talking. I liked the car so I bought it. ANyway, if General Motors were outselling Ford, why would it even care to make a challenge to somone they were beating already? Thx for the info but it looks like its just your opinion not fact.

He's comparing GM's half-ton trucks to Ford's half-ton truck. It's not our fault Ford only has the F-150. We could throw the Lincoln Mark LT in there too if it'll help you sleep at night, not that it would change anything.

And GM does outsell Ford. Month after month after month after year after year after year.

10-12-2010, 11:42 PM	#40
derklug Drives: 12 Boss 302 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi Posts: 1,369	The best of all worlds would be a Cummins with an Allison trans in a Ford body. Make them like semi's, the manufacturer makes the body, you spec the drivetrain. __________________ The biggest mistakes in life come when you know exactly what you are doing.

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10-11-2010, 09:07 PM	#32
Synyster Drives: 2006 F150 Lariat Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 1,665	Personally, I'd NEVER buy any truck besides a Ford. My F150 I sold for my Camaro was a real workhorse. 165k miles the day it was sold. Not once did it need a rebuild or any serious warranty work. Same goes for the Super Duties. My uncle's 7.3L F250 is well over 400k miles and is just breaking in. Though I hate to say the 6.0 and 6.4 don't seem to fulfill the tasks. Besides those motors though, Ford's new 6.7 seemed to be extremely promising before the 2011 Super Duty released and so far they've definitely proven themselves. Still, my dream truck would be a new F250 with a Cummins conversion. Best of both worlds. btw, please don't take any of the above as solid data, I'm only one person with one opinion.

10-12-2010, 08:22 PM	#39
Synyster Drives: 2006 F150 Lariat Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 1,665	I'd still take the Ford truck over any other truck, despite sales. As I'm sure a lot of y'all would take a Chevy or Dodge over the competition. My dad had always only bought F150s so that's how I grew up, with my first vehicle being his last F150.