10-03-2015, 10:38 AM | #1 |
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ZL1 to MGW shifter / opinions wanted
Upgrading my OEM clutch which has begun to slip at 800+ wheel, not bad really hats off to GM!
While we're in there considering a shifter upgrade to MGW. I've heard the shifter is GOOD but not GREAT compared directly to the OEM ZL1 shifter. Who here has gone from the ZL1 shifter to the MGW? Thoughts and opinions on value are my main concern. I don't want to upgrade to "upgrade" I really only want a better shift to 3rd. I've missed it a few times in big races. Thanks!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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10-03-2015, 01:06 PM | #2 |
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I bought an MGW shifter last year after I missed a downshift going into a fast corner.
The shifter has stronger springs holding the shifter in the center of the gear pattern. Shifts are shorter. I enjoy it much better than stock. I was talked into the flat stick shifter and ball knob, don't like it. I like the stock shift knob it fits my hand better. Talked to MGW and they shipped me the new upper handle for the ZL1 shift knob. Much better fit for my hand. |
10-04-2015, 03:01 AM | #3 |
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MGW is hands down night and day. I love mine and its an older version. Shifts are precise and if you miss 3rd.......either you have no business owning a manual or something is wrong with ur tranny ie. locked out. Shifts are a little shorter. I really noticed the reduction in the 3-4 shift. It's worth every penny and personally one of my favorite mods.
The MGW shifter is great.
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10-05-2015, 08:54 PM | #4 |
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You Will Love It!
MGW is a great shifter. Wait till you shift 2 to 3. You cannot miss it. I say, Go For IT!
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10-05-2015, 09:31 PM | #5 |
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+1 I haven't missed 3rd since! No regrets!
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10-05-2015, 09:37 PM | #6 |
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I would love to try one before buying. How bad is the install?
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10-06-2015, 05:50 AM | #7 |
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It's more challenging than changing out to something like a Hurst. Here's the video on how to change it. I've watched it a couple of times as I too would love to change to this shifter. In the end, I think I'd have someone do this for me as I don't have a lift or the desire to lay on my back to try and reach the parts you need to access from the underside.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=iR45CGOnQOo
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10-06-2015, 06:15 AM | #8 |
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I went from 1LE shifter (same as ZL1) to the MGW. I did it on jackstands in my garage.
The install video is pretty spot on. If you have a garage and stands, and you don't allow yourself to be rushed, you can follow the video step by step and be just fine. It is an improvement over the 1LE/ZL1 shifter, no doubt. Is it worth the expense and effort? I don't know I can say that for sure, since the ZL1 shifter is pretty darn good too. I will say that with the 1LE/ZL1 shifter, if I was being lazy, I could hit that spot between the 1st and 3rd gate when trying to grab 3rd (and miss the shift). It is pretty much impossible to do that with the MGW, as the spring return pulls you very hard into the 3-4 gate. The 3-4 rate is so strong, if you aren't careful, you can end up in 4th when trying to go from 1st to 2nd |
10-06-2015, 06:29 AM | #9 |
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The MGW is a better shifter for sure, but how much better is debatable. Is it noisier? That would bother me.
My opinion is the ZL1/1LE shifter is very good. I used to miss third sometimes, but Ranger helped cure me. Check it out. Practice, practice, practice. Muscle memory. http://www.rangeracceleration.com/Im..._Shifting.html OP, what clutch are you going to? |
10-08-2015, 03:35 PM | #10 |
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I was questionable about it being shorter than OEM and better than OEM. It's hands down better! Haven't missed a 3rd gear since install!
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10-09-2015, 06:26 AM | #11 |
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The question of how much shorter is easy: The ZL1 shifter has a 25% reduction in throw over the non-Hurst SS shifter. The MGW shifter has a 33% reduction over the non-Hurst SS shifter. Frankly, it is not a huge difference.
Someone asked about noise. In my case, noise was reduced over the 1LE shifter. However, full disclosure, I used extra sound proofing during the MGW install, including using additional sound mat (like what they include in the kit) and using dynamat on the tunnel shifter. At first, I also used a weighted shift ball. I did all this out of paranoia, and it paid off. Later, I went back to the stock 1LE shift knob on the MGW shifter. It is lighter and conveyed slightly more noise than the weighted ball. All in all though, the MGW with the extra sound proofing was still more quiet than the stock 1LE shifter. |
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10-10-2015, 11:21 PM | #13 |
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The MGW is a really nice shifter.
The only con I've found is that it needs a lot of force to move the shifter over into reverse.
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10-15-2015, 09:32 PM | #14 |
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Alright guys...I went back and forth on this but I went ahead and pulled the trigger on the MGW shifter. We should have the car put back together next week and I'll let you know what I think.
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