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nyrfan · 06-30-2013, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by alaskacamaro

It was what he recommended to provided added safety for a more aggressive tune. If course the results were nothing like I thought they would be..

When u did my own research, plenty of performance guys seem to back up his statements. Meth in a N/A car won't improve hp but it will run the engine clearer, safer and provide a few more mpg.

Omg, you got so taken.

Sent from my 2SS/RS

MarylandSpeed · 06-30-2013, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by EFI

LOL, guy is a genius business man.

He not only sells you the tune, but the unit itself. Smart guy.

You basically just paid $400 for a glorified code scanner.

Everyone thinks of HP Tuners..which has two options. First, you can buy the software, interface cable, and buy credits...then you write the tune yourself. You own everything, and can tune as many cars as you want (as long as you keep buying credits). The other, more popular way is to go to a shop that has HP Tuners hardware/software already, and they charge you $4-600, load the custom tune on your car using their HPTuners hardware, and send you on your way.

Diablo works different. The tuner is basically your interface, cables, and credits. The tuner has canned tunes, but if you need a custom tune, you go to a shop that has Diablo CMR software (which cost a few thousand dollars). They use the software, write the tune, and load it on your tuner for you. This is how almost all the Dodge people do it. You do not see Diablo as much with GM because most of the established GM shops prefer HPTuners.

Camper · 06-30-2013, 08:45 PM

tuner ****ed you..

Nightmare2012 · 06-30-2013, 10:23 PM

tuner didnt even use lube man i feel sore for you brotha!!

Jeff_SS · 07-01-2013, 12:13 AM

What's the elevation where you are OP?

alaskacamaro · 07-01-2013, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff_SS

What's the elevation where you are OP?

I can skip a rock into the ocean...

Oh, forgot to throw in that 90 octane is the highest pump gas I can get (I only use Chevron or Shell gas though).

alaskacamaro · 07-01-2013, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MarylandSpeed

Everyone thinks of HP Tuners..which has two options. First, you can buy the software, interface cable, and buy credits...then you write the tune yourself. You own everything, and can tune as many cars as you want (as long as you keep buying credits). The other, more popular way is to go to a shop that has HP Tuners hardware/software already, and they charge you $4-600, load the custom tune on your car using their HPTuners hardware, and send you on your way.

Diablo works different. The tuner is basically your interface, cables, and credits. The tuner has canned tunes, but if you need a custom tune, you go to a shop that has Diablo CMR software (which cost a few thousand dollars). They use the software, write the tune, and load it on your tuner for you. This is how almost all the Dodge people do it. You do not see Diablo as much with GM because most of the established GM shops prefer HPTuners.

Yeah I checked Diablo's website and the handheld tuners are around $400.00. Clearly I am no expert but when he was explaining it to me, I had the assumption that he would use the programmed turner but also tweek the tune with the dyno and meth to the best result possible...

I have only had the car back for two days but it is quicker, handles corners 1k better and sounds just plain mean....the numbers on the paper were not what I thought they would be but the car is a whole new animal. However, if he is blowing smoke, I need some professional comments and figures to back it up when I talk to him on Tuesday. If he took me for a ride, I want to make sure nobody else gets in the same car...

chevybowtie · 07-01-2013, 12:11 PM

Heard that they are not the best at tuning, but could be wrong. If you dont mind me asking who did your gear install. Local?

Ajdin@A2BMotorsport · 07-01-2013, 12:45 PM

Almost looks like the tuner loaded a canned tune from the Diablo for Shorties/exhaust/intake and then pocketed the $500. Also meth injection can be used to gain power on N/A cars as well.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...lications.html

alaskacamaro · 07-07-2013, 11:25 AM

Just a quick update on this issue...

First off, I want to thank Ted and MarylandSpeed for the professional replies and input, I still have a very steep learning curve..

Ted called me personally and gave great advice. Thanks again.

Went to the tuner to get stock parts and asked about the tune, more specifically, the handheld tuner. Tuner apologized and didn't realize he charged me for a custom tune AND and programed tune so he refunded me $400.00.

Despite this issue, I am very very happy with the car and will post a complete write up with pics just as soon as the weather gets sunny again. Thank God for forums like this for people like myself..

LS3 SS · 07-07-2013, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by alaskacamaro

Just a quick update on this issue...

First off, I want to thank Ted and MarylandSpeed for the professional replies and input, I still have a very steep learning curve..

Ted called me personally and gave great advice. Thanks again.

Went to the tuner to get stock parts and asked about the tune, more specifically, the handheld tuner. Tuner apologized and didn't realize he charged me for a custom tune AND and programed tune so he refunded me $400.00.

Despite this issue, I am very very happy with the car and will post a complete write up with pics just as soon as the weather gets sunny again. Thank God for forums like this for people like myself..

That's great news he gave you your money back. I guess he's only half way shady now.

Smirnoff · 07-07-2013, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by alaskacamaro

Just a quick update on this issue...

First off, I want to thank Ted and MarylandSpeed for the professional replies and input, I still have a very steep learning curve..

Ted called me personally and gave great advice. Thanks again.

Went to the tuner to get stock parts and asked about the tune, more specifically, the handheld tuner. Tuner apologized and didn't realize he charged me for a custom tune AND and programed tune so he refunded me $400.00.

Despite this issue, I am very very happy with the car and will post a complete write up with pics just as soon as the weather gets sunny again. Thank God for forums like this for people like myself..

Hope you got a refund for the meth kit

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MaxKamai · 07-07-2013, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by alaskacamaro

Just a quick update on this issue...

First off, I want to thank Ted and MarylandSpeed for the professional replies and input, I still have a very steep learning curve..

Ted called me personally and gave great advice. Thanks again.

Went to the tuner to get stock parts and asked about the tune, more specifically, the handheld tuner. Tuner apologized and didn't realize he charged me for a custom tune AND and programed tune so he refunded me $400.00.

Despite this issue, I am very very happy with the car and will post a complete write up with pics just as soon as the weather gets sunny again. Thank God for forums like this for people like myself..

Glad to hear it

To my knowledge, no one in Alaska has CMR License.

dekan513 · 07-07-2013, 07:11 PM

take that 400 and get setup with ted. unless u know someone in ur area that is a well known tuner on ls engines. then get a dyno tune. but alway get on ls1tech.com or here and look for info on the tuner. lots of info on forums. but ted is very good with a email tune.

07-01-2013, 12:13 AM	#33
Jeff_SS "Cam Only" Drives: 2013 Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,709 View My Garage	What's the elevation where you are OP? __________________ 2013 AGM Camaro 2SS/RS M6 \| LSA Blower, 2.5" pulley, 10% lower, FIC1000's, Fore Innovations Twin Pump fuel system w/ Flex Fuel, CMS Custom Grind Cam, Kooks 1 7/8" headers w/ catless off-road pipes, NPP Exhaust, 3.91's, JLT ZL1 Intake, Prospeed Heat Exchanger \| Pfadt Suspension, 1LE Sway Bars \| DSS 1000hp axles \| Tuned by Ryne @ CMS E85: 734rwhp/636rwtq (mustang dyno)

07-07-2013, 07:11 PM	#42
dekan513 chevy pride Drives: 2ss/rs Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: pikeville ky Posts: 2,141 View My Garage	take that 400 and get setup with ted. unless u know someone in ur area that is a well known tuner on ls engines. then get a dyno tune. but alway get on ls1tech.com or here and look for info on the tuner. lots of info on forums. but ted is very good with a email tune. __________________ check out ky speeds fb page https://www.facebook.com/kyspeed

06-30-2013, 08:45 PM	#31
Camper Banned Drives: 10' 2SS LS3 M6 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Phoenix,AZ Posts: 1,370	tuner ****ed you..

06-30-2013, 10:23 PM	#32
Nightmare2012 come find out;) Drives: stockish 2012 camaro ss Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: speed county Posts: 2,166 View My Garage	tuner didnt even use lube man i feel sore for you brotha!!

07-01-2013, 12:11 PM	#36
chevybowtie Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: May 2012 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 28	Heard that they are not the best at tuning, but could be wrong. If you dont mind me asking who did your gear install. Local?

07-01-2013, 12:45 PM	#37
Ajdin@A2BMotorsport Account Suspended Drives: 2013 Camaro 1SS/1LE Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Waterloo Posts: 609	Almost looks like the tuner loaded a canned tune from the Diablo for Shorties/exhaust/intake and then pocketed the $500. Also meth injection can be used to gain power on N/A cars as well. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...lications.html

07-07-2013, 11:25 AM	#38
alaskacamaro Drives: 2012 2SS 45TH Anniversary Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Kentucky Posts: 720	Just a quick update on this issue... First off, I want to thank Ted and MarylandSpeed for the professional replies and input, I still have a very steep learning curve.. Ted called me personally and gave great advice. Thanks again. Went to the tuner to get stock parts and asked about the tune, more specifically, the handheld tuner. Tuner apologized and didn't realize he charged me for a custom tune AND and programed tune so he refunded me $400.00. Despite this issue, I am very very happy with the car and will post a complete write up with pics just as soon as the weather gets sunny again. Thank God for forums like this for people like myself..