07-10-2009, 08:21 AM | #15 | |
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blowing rings past 450... |
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07-10-2009, 09:18 AM | #16 |
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yup Have a 2jz that makes over 600whp on the stock rotating assembly sitting on the dyno right now. It has made that power for 88K.
The LLT and LNF have a similar parts list, and most of the rotating assembly is plenty strong for the task. We have been well over 400whp for a while on the LNF and those pistons are cast as well. Both motors have a forged steel crank, and sinterforged rods. With full floating pins and oil squirters to control crown temps, the cast (most likely hypereutectic) pistons are likely alot stronger then you give them credit for. As for fueling, it's just a matter of PCM access. When you run out of injection window@max rail pressure, you just need to add a PFI rail. We have been running our prototype on it for a few weeks now with significant upper rpm gains. DI+ PFI secondary=win. Esp if it uses a secondary tank fulla E85 THis motor will make good power on boost. I'll bet money that as long as detonation stays out of the picture, the weak link(cast pistons) will be strong enough for well over 600hp. |
07-10-2009, 10:03 AM | #17 |
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nice to see you over here from the balt forums. i think the v6 will be a really impressive motor in time, so i guess well just have to see where things take us
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07-15-2009, 07:16 AM | #18 |
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I bet GM will drop off the ls3 V8 and just start producing turbo/SC v6s as the SS platform eventually if they get wind of how good DI+ forced induction works... hell, even the Mpg would be better if GM makes a good set up......
If you want a v8 SS, I suggest you order them now. These are the days of green GM. |
07-15-2009, 10:39 AM | #19 |
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I need a mule to get the party started...
Whom has a v6 in their driveway that is willing to take detailed enginebay pics, perhaps with the airbox removed and post them? |
07-15-2009, 10:49 AM | #20 |
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07-15-2009, 11:06 AM | #21 |
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I think the big question is going to be the fuel system. Being that it is all OEM stuff, if it can't push another 200 HP worth of fuel, we are going to be kind of stuck - it is not like there are a lot of aftermarket direct injection fuel systems out there.
-Geoff
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07-15-2009, 04:50 PM | #22 | |
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07-15-2009, 05:42 PM | #23 |
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I have made 150whp more than stock on their 4 banger' with the stock fuel system.
I have no reason to believe the 6 holer' is going to be any different. Big power will come with secondary injectors. It makes better top end power to have intake trumpet mounted injectors, anyway. See F1. |
07-15-2009, 09:22 PM | #24 |
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Im interested if there will be room for lowmount twins. I think a 600hp setup that had full boost by 2K would be very fun to drive light to light. With More than 500ftlbs on tap by 3k it will be a nice "roll on the whisle in 3rd and F'n burn em up" car.
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07-15-2009, 10:08 PM | #25 |
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in a month ill take pics of my 1lt after it gets back from having a professional turbo kit made for it..no joking. im getting a quote tomorrow and they want to make a v6 turbo to sell and they needed a v6 to mold it from..i said screw it cant gain unless you give a little first..so 1 month of engineering for my car to have 550-600 whp is well worth it to me.
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07-15-2009, 10:41 PM | #26 |
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Im looking to do the same.
It's a closed deck block, with a ladderframe lower girdle and a beefy crankshaft. |
07-16-2009, 07:37 PM | #27 | |
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07-16-2009, 08:18 PM | #28 | |
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Don't overthink the system If you need current examples, check w/ the VW guys. The LS/LT 3.6L DI camaros already have wet nitrous kits available (50-100hp) from ZEX. Last edited by MadMaxx; 07-16-2009 at 08:41 PM. |
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