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Quicksilverman · 05-10-2017, 02:11 AM

What are the best bolt on's or modifications you can do without voiding the factory warranty? What modification are worth doing? What gains may you see? I am asking because I don't want to void my factory warranty. Opinions?

Gunmetal Speedster · 05-10-2017, 03:13 AM

Ultimately you have little to no options when it comes to power add-on's that wont void the warranty. Intake, catback, maybe a ported throttle body (not a power adder but will help throttle response.) And even then, the gains will be minimal without the proper tune to maximize the most out of each mod.

Your best bet would be to get an exhaust you like and then stick to cosmetic modifications and worry about the bolt-on's after your warranty is up. That way you have a nice looking car that has a sound to match.

Quicksilverman · 05-10-2017, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Gunmetal Speedster

Ultimately you have little to no options when it comes to power add-on's that wont void the warranty. Intake, catback, maybe a ported throttle body (not a power adder but will help throttle response.) And even then, the gains will be minimal without the proper tune to maximize the most out of each mod.

Your best bet would be to get an exhaust you like and then stick to cosmetic modifications and worry about the bolt-on's after your warranty is up. That way you have a nice looking car that has a sound to match.

That is a good idea thank you for your knowledge I appreciate it. Does a Powerbond 25% under drive crank pulley void your engine warranty? It is actually a good mod for your engine. Will a CAI and a Catback exhaust require a tune to make your car run correctly? Or can you get away with not doing a tune?

Gunmetal Speedster · 05-10-2017, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Quicksilverman

That is a good idea thank you for your knowledge I appreciate it. Does a Powerbond 25% under drive crank pulley void your engine warranty? It is actually a good mod for your engine. Will a CAI and a Catback exhaust require a tune to make your car run correctly? Or can you get away with not doing a tune?

I'm actually not sure if the UDP will void a warranty, perhaps someone else could chime in with that one. I could see why it would as it's turning 25% slower so it can have some unwanted side effects if manufactured poorly. This can lead to low alternator voltage, weak/no power steering assist, and weak/no air conditioning effectiveness, especially at idle/low RPM. The most commonly seen side effect is lighting may dim, or the stereo may cut out. I'm going to be running the Powerbond 25% UDP (car is currently in the shop for a cam upgrade along with other upgrades, UDP being one) but since the idle has to be raised for my cam it offsets the negative effects that can be acquainted with UDP's.

As for the intake/catback question, the answer is no, you do not need a tune for them to work properly. Will a tune help? Of course! But those are within the limits of what the car can reasonably self learn and will adapt to. However, when choosing an aftermarket intake it is important to check and see if you have a strong MAF sensor, as the increased air flow makes you susceptible to a CEL if you do not. More on that here: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=291436

Avenging Orange · 05-10-2017, 06:47 AM

None.
I'll say it again....any modification can potentually void a warranty. That doesnt mean a competent dealer will try to warranty an issue proven not caused by your modification.
When in doubt, wait it out.

qcman · 05-10-2017, 07:36 AM

Fuzzy Dice are a very safe mod though you will likely need to find a Fuzzy Dice friendly dealer just to be safe!

frankwjr · 05-10-2017, 09:37 AM

Get new valve stem tips and call it a day....seriously..anybody who SERIOUSLY wants to mod these cars should FIRST develop a relationship with a tuner OR learn to tune themselves. These cars are ALL computer...period. Even a BRAND NEW camaro off the show room floor would run better tuned with ZERO mods..

Not slammin you per se...just see these Q's and want to set the expectation level...sure go ahead and bolt on what ever with no tune....and I will take the same car, have it tuned and it WILL blow the un-tuned car away...performance, drivability, gas mileage, etc...

Now, you can get a better air filter for the stock(K&N) and I would also check the MAF and make sure it's the strong ver(look it up). Get the trans and rear diff fluids changed. These will not void any warranty, you will learn about your car and get a small performance and mileage increase.

My goal was/is when modding first, reliability, second is efficiency and third performance...when you do the first 2 properly the 3rd follows naturally...when you push performance over the first 2, you get broken parts, pissed and disillusioned, get to sit on yer ass all summer waiting to fix the broken stuff and last an empty wallet...

My car is a daily driver...I can't afford to live on the edge and since I have had the car approx 13mo now, my mods per my sig have worked out pretty good. Not been back to the track since the latest upgrades so my Q will go down...good luck!

christianchevell · 05-10-2017, 09:44 AM

Seriously ; a better shifter if a manual as in short throw MGW, if dual mode a Forza controller, and a catch can you have set up to be able to remove easily and return to stock if you ever have to get warranty work.....dealers are like a huge ugly pimp, Ho comes back with her make up smeared and your payin extra......

Some guys know their dealer and they may be OK with Headers and high flows and a CAI and tune if they do it, unfortunately that's not us.......... and talking Magnuson moss act will get you escorted off the property...LOL

JusticePete · 05-10-2017, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Quicksilverman

That is a good idea thank you for your knowledge I appreciate it. Does a Powerbond 25% under drive crank pulley void your engine warranty? It is actually a good mod for your engine. Will a CAI and a Catback exhaust require a tune to make your car run correctly? Or can you get away with not doing a tune?

Visit your dealer. Have a discussion with the service director. Find out what they view as acceptable modifications that will not void your warranty. Work with them and hopefully they work with you.

JerTM · 05-10-2017, 10:35 AM

Assuming you are talking about the 2012 in your info, I doubt you have much longer to wait until you're out of warranty anyway. PM your vin and I can tell you exactly when your warranty is up.

Texas_RS · 05-10-2017, 12:14 PM

What warranty on a 2012?....

05-10-2017, 02:11 AM	#1
Quicksilverman Drives: 2012 Chevrolet Camaro Join Date: May 2017 Location: Atlanta,Georgia Posts: 16	What are the best bolt on's to do with factory warranty? What are the best bolt on's or modifications you can do without voiding the factory warranty? What modification are worth doing? What gains may you see? I am asking because I don't want to void my factory warranty. Opinions?

05-10-2017, 03:13 AM	#2
Gunmetal Speedster Drives: Savitar; The 500rwhp N/A Monster! Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Middletown, Ohio Posts: 2,914 View My Garage	Ultimately you have little to no options when it comes to power add-on's that wont void the warranty. Intake, catback, maybe a ported throttle body (not a power adder but will help throttle response.) And even then, the gains will be minimal without the proper tune to maximize the most out of each mod. Your best bet would be to get an exhaust you like and then stick to cosmetic modifications and worry about the bolt-on's after your warranty is up. That way you have a nice looking car that has a sound to match. __________________ **SOLD504HP/433**TQ \| Night Fury cammed • Cold Air Inductions intake • Bo White ported TB • Speed Engineering 1 7/8 longtubes • NPP catback • QTP low profile cutouts • Powerbond 25% UDP • 3.73 gears • JRE scoop • ZL1 grille • R1 Concepts drilled/slotted rotors • built/tuned by Weapon X Motorsports Instagram \| YouTube \| Build Thread

05-10-2017, 06:47 AM	#5
Avenging Orange Drives: 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Clermont, IN Posts: 3,297	None. I'll say it again....any modification can potentually void a warranty. That doesnt mean a competent dealer will try to warranty an issue proven not caused by your modification. When in doubt, wait it out. __________________ 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS M6 Black Leather, Sun Roof, OBX Headers, Borla touring axle back, Cold Air Inductions CAI , non synthetic fluids, BMR total bushing upgrade/1" lowering springs, DSE 32mm rear sway bar. GM fe4 shocks/struts/LCA's, AAM 3.91 diff, Vertini RFS1.8 20x9 +30. Conti ExtremeContact Sport 275/35/20. sjm autoprod ABL dash kit. Mike Norris tuned 413/419. Avenging Orange: 43 years of not buying into the Hype........and damn proud of it!! https://youtu.be/9JD9it6SmB8 https://youtu.be/xmelTlEzI34 KICKING CANCERS ASS SINCE 2015!!

05-10-2017, 09:37 AM	#7
frankwjr Drives: 2010 SS 2SS M6 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Smithsburg, Md. Posts: 2,445	Get new valve stem tips and call it a day....seriously..anybody who SERIOUSLY wants to mod these cars should FIRST develop a relationship with a tuner OR learn to tune themselves. These cars are ALL computer...period. Even a BRAND NEW camaro off the show room floor would run better tuned with ZERO mods.. Not slammin you per se...just see these Q's and want to set the expectation level...sure go ahead and bolt on what ever with no tune....and I will take the same car, have it tuned and it WILL blow the un-tuned car away...performance, drivability, gas mileage, etc... Now, you can get a better air filter for the stock(K&N) and I would also check the MAF and make sure it's the strong ver(look it up). Get the trans and rear diff fluids changed. These will not void any warranty, you will learn about your car and get a small performance and mileage increase. My goal was/is when modding first, reliability, second is efficiency and third performance...when you do the first 2 properly the 3rd follows naturally...when you push performance over the first 2, you get broken parts, pissed and disillusioned, get to sit on yer ass all summer waiting to fix the broken stuff and last an empty wallet... My car is a daily driver...I can't afford to live on the edge and since I have had the car approx 13mo now, my mods per my sig have worked out pretty good. Not been back to the track since the latest upgrades so my Q will go down...good luck! __________________ 2010 SS 2SS M6 - Tune by RDP dynoSteve!(Woot) - Daily Driver - *150K!* - All work by me...

05-10-2017, 09:44 AM	#8
christianchevell old school chevy rodder Drives: 2013 2SS/RS Manual,DM exhaust,CRT Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,587 View My Garage	Seriously ; a better shifter if a manual as in short throw MGW, if dual mode a Forza controller, and a catch can you have set up to be able to remove easily and return to stock if you ever have to get warranty work.....dealers are like a huge ugly pimp, Ho comes back with her make up smeared and your payin extra...... Some guys know their dealer and they may be OK with Headers and high flows and a CAI and tune if they do it, unfortunately that's not us.......... and talking Magnuson moss act will get you escorted off the property...LOL __________________ 2021 Wild Cherry ZL1 A10, Sunroof, Data, Carbon, Nav, RotoFab Dry CAI, Elite x2, Borla ATK, Driveshaft shop

05-10-2017, 07:36 AM	#6
qcman Drives: 2013 Camaro 2SS RDP Tuned L99 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Ottawa, Canada eh? Posts: 1,889	Fuzzy Dice are a very safe mod though you will likely need to find a Fuzzy Dice friendly dealer just to be safe!

05-10-2017, 10:35 AM	#10
JerTM Drives: 2011 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Utah Posts: 1,940	Assuming you are talking about the 2012 in your info, I doubt you have much longer to wait until you're out of warranty anyway. PM your vin and I can tell you exactly when your warranty is up.

05-10-2017, 12:14 PM	#11
Texas_RS Drives: 2013 1LE/SS Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Dfw, Texas Posts: 898	What warranty on a 2012?.... __________________ Current mods: Stainless Power Long Tube Headers,Cat Delete,CAI Cold Air Intake,Vitesse throttle controller, Muffler/Resonator Delete w/dual tips. ADM Performance Tuned,BMR 1.25 lowering springs,R1 Concept Slotted/Dimpled Rotors.