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[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by xc_SS/RS

No torque to move the extra weight

Not a fan of the Voodoo, the Raptor, or Ford in general ... but the 5.2 would be the 3rd torquiest engine in the F-150 lineup (behind the 2 versions of the 3.5L ecoboast) & I think 4th or 5th of all current 1/2 ton engines. Thats not too bad for a NA screamer of an engine.

And before you say it comes on too late in the rpm band, its torque peaks at 4750 -just slightly after the LT1 in the Camaro & Corvette hit their peak. But keep in mind that since the engine revs to the moon, you can put in much more aggressive gearing that effectively compresses the rpm range of the engine.

No, it will not have to down low power needed for towing and hauling. But if you need a truck for towing & hauling, you probably aren't considering a Raptor in the first place.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

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Early mule for a Wrangler fighter?

[xc_SS/RS]

Originally Posted by Thor142

A10, program the shift points, different rear end. Problem solved.

BTW it doesn't have "no torque" it has it's powerband in the higher RPMs

Where it's perfectly useful off-road... oh wait.

Key point for torque:
2,500 RPM in the 5.2 Voodoo you have 260 ish lb ft
2,500 RPM in the 3.5 Ecoboost (old version) you have 350 is lb ft.

The Voodoo would've been crap in the Raptor for its intended use. Now if it was supposed to be a street driven performance truck then absolutely use the Voodoo

[xc_SS/RS]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Not a fan of the Voodoo, the Raptor, or Ford in general ... but the 5.2 would be the 3rd torquiest engine in the F-150 lineup (behind the 2 versions of the 3.5L ecoboast) & I think 4th or 5th of all current 1/2 ton engines. Thats not too bad for a NA screamer of an engine.

And before you say it comes on too late in the rpm band, its torque peaks at 4750 -just slightly after the LT1 in the Camaro & Corvette hit their peak. But keep in mind that since the engine revs to the moon, you can put in much more aggressive gearing that effectively compresses the rpm range of the engine.

No, it will not have to down low power needed for towing and hauling. But if you need a truck for towing & hauling, you probably aren't considering a Raptor in the first place.

Torque down low also helps when off-roading and the 3.5 offers much more where you need it for a truck. I agree if you're using the truck for normal truck things you aren't contemplating a Raptor

[DGthe3]

But isn't the Raptor intended to scream through the desert at 100 mph ... not crawl over rocks at 1 mph?

[xc_SS/RS]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

But isn't the Raptor intended to scream through the desert at 100 mph ... not crawl over rocks at 1 mph?

You're right, I'm guessing it probably can't withstand the abuse of an off road vehicle. No matter how smooth it may be skipping across the dunes, I'll bet a V8 designed to scream on track just isn't a good fit for a desert bashing truck.

Plus the new one has a TT 5.0 V8. Why bother with an exotic knife when you get a sledge hammer

[FenwickHockey65]

First 3 Chevrolet Bolt EVs delivered to customers...

...in Fremont, CA. Tesla's backyard.

[GroundhogSS]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

First 3 Chevrolet Bolt EVs delivered to customers...

...in Fremont, CA. Tesla's backyard.

Go Chevy.

[Thor142]

Originally Posted by xc_SS/RS

Where it's perfectly useful off-road... oh wait.

Key point for torque:
2,500 RPM in the 5.2 Voodoo you have 260 ish lb ft
2,500 RPM in the 3.5 Ecoboost (old version) you have 350 is lb ft.

The Voodoo would've been crap in the Raptor for its intended use. Now if it was supposed to be a street driven performance truck then absolutely use the Voodoo

I don't see your point. A high revving v8 would be an awesome baja race truck.

[xc_SS/RS]

Originally Posted by Thor142

I don't see your point. A high revving v8 would be an awesome baja race truck.

Agree to disagree?

Most truck motors are designed and tuned to produce torque down low. The Voodoo doesn't do that because it's designed to work best between 4,000 RPM to redline on a road course. So for it to work in a truck that is used as a daily driver, you would have to completely alter how the motor makes it power. That's expensive, and the motor is already expensive because it's used in one low volume car. If you alter everything behind the motor it's also expensive.

Most Raptors will see little off road use. I base that opinion on how the majority in my area are spotless, pavement princesses. So the Voodoo wouldn't work for those owners.

It would work best for the small minority that bought the truck for its indented off-road use. But that intended use was tainted because people want the truck for how it looks. Lifted trucks look badass, and this one comes with a warranty and the parts installed for you.

I agree with you on using it for a dedicated race truck that will see high RPM use most of the time because race truck. I don't agree with you on putting the Voodoo in the street truck as it wouldn't work for 90% of the people who buy one

[FenwickHockey65]

2nd gen Chevrolet Traverse and GMC Terrain at Detroit.

[Bhobbs]

I'm surprised it's not the big wing Corvette. I figured they would want something exciting for Detroit.

[FenwickHockey65]

It's not a finite list of reveals, just what's expected so far.

[FenwickHockey65]

Chevrolet Detroit press conference bright and early at 7:30 AM, January 9th.