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Fraxum · 05-16-2014, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by WHAMMO

Dont spend all your money after a stupid race; its a supercharged mustang, so its alright to get beat by that. Is your car a perfect drag setup?..i guess not; drag wheels all around, weight reduction, 9inch, custom suspension, did I say weight reduction? lol. You could lose 200lbs in a blink; drag wheels, 1 racing seat, no rear seats, no crash bars, exhaust and there you have around 200lbs off. (more like 300).

Its not worth it. Enjoy your car, and try to not break anything. Youre lucky the clutch is still ok.

Yes you are right, I know I can make my car faster at the drags. But I want a car that can do everything: cruise, travel, drive to work (but I work from home), track days, autox, and almost keep up with a SC 5.0 Mustang. See Todd's post above. He gets what I am after.

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Originally Posted by OneSlowV

Simple thing to do is sell the camaro and buy a 5.0 lol. His car must not be at 8-10 lbs of boost he should be trapping around 130 mph with his 5.0.

Now you are scaring me. Will I need to add a 200 shot of N2O? His tuner is still working feverishly on his car.

Novie LE · 05-16-2014, 03:25 PM

He ran the times you are running now with a simple intake/xpipe/tune. Once he gets that car tuned it will be game over. If he decides to stall it, you might as well not even try cause he will have a low 10 second car if done right. You should stop worrying about beating your buddy imo, it will lead to a broken car and a wallet on your end

87GNX · 05-16-2014, 04:16 PM

the 5th gen coyote mustang is a beast and best left alone if you dont drop more $$$$ than your buddy. My friend's 2013 auto dropped into the low 11's with full boltons. and into the 10's with just a 75 shot in hot muggy air

Fraxum · 05-31-2014, 10:29 PM

My car was back at RPM for some rework so I had them put in the 6 lb springs in the wastegates. Still with a conservative tune my 1LE picked up about 30 RWHP.

And then I went back to Atco to find Pat and his SC 5.0. This upgrade made a nice difference and I started running 120-122 mph. My times were still hovering around 12.0 as I was have trouble launching. But the HP is there. Pat was also having traction problems so it was the perfect night for a rematch. But a track oil dump shortened the night so I only got to run Pat once. Unfortunately he beat my light again and ran a little faster. But it was a close race. But you can see he is still pulling me a little all the way down the track. Now with 90 more RWHP than Pat I think we are close enough so that if I can get consistent better 60s it can be a drivers race. Pat did hook on one run and went 11.4. Hopefully I can beat Pat before he gets his 15 inch DRs. I am #212.

tc Bosnian · 06-10-2014, 07:04 PM

Awesome thread! Good luck in beating him. Sounds like he is a very good driver.

alaskacamaro · 06-10-2014, 11:29 PM

This thread reminds me of "Moby Dick" for some reason...

molsonbrador · 06-11-2014, 06:31 PM

How's the car running? I'm hoping to get down to Atco soon. Next Tuesday or Friday hopefully.

Need4speed_motorsports · 06-11-2014, 06:43 PM

You gotta keep in mind that a 5.0 is about 400 lbs lighter than a camaro. Plus what kind of tires are you running, and have you touched your suspension? Youd be surprised how big a difference a linear spring rate is vs a progressive spring.

SGOS252382 · 06-12-2014, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Fraxum

My car was back at RPM for some rework so I had them put in the 6 lb springs in the wastegates. Still with a conservative tune my 1LE picked up about 30 RWHP.

And then I went back to Atco to find Pat and his SC 5.0. This upgrade made a nice difference and I started running 120-122 mph. My times were still hovering around 12.0 as I was have trouble launching. But the HP is there. Pat was also having traction problems so it was the perfect night for a rematch. But a track oil dump shortened the night so I only got to run Pat once. Unfortunately he beat my light again and ran a little faster. But it was a close race. But you can see he is still pulling me a little all the way down the track. Now with 90 more RWHP than Pat I think we are close enough so that if I can get consistent better 60s it can be a drivers race. Pat did hook on one run and went 11.4. Hopefully I can beat Pat before he gets his 15 inch DRs. I am #212.

I was about to say, I ran faster 60' times when my L99 only had an intake for mods.
20" NT555Rs (bolt ons) got me 1.74 sec 60'
You get that 60' time down where it should be (1.5 - 1.6 with you HP level and converter) and you'll shave a ton of time off

SGOS252382 · 06-12-2014, 06:30 AM

[QUOTE=SGOS252382;7738168]I was about to say, I ran faster 60' times when my L99 only had an intake for mods.
20" NT555Rs (bolt ons) got me 1.74 sec 60'
You get that 60' time down where it should be and you'll be running low 11s.

Fraxum · 06-12-2014, 10:06 PM

[QUOTE=SGOS252382;7738172]

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Originally Posted by SGOS252382

I was about to say, I ran faster 60' times when my L99 only had an intake for mods.
20" NT555Rs (bolt ons) got me 1.74 sec 60'
You get that 60' time down where it should be and you'll be running low 11s.

You are right, but I am an M6. My best 60' is 1.85 with the NT 555Rs. But the night I was running 120-122 my best was 2.0. To be honest I was babying my car as I had a 2,500 mile road trip planned and I did not want to risk my axles.

I will be back the week after next.

derklug · 06-13-2014, 12:21 AM

Gunpowder is your key to victory. Two or three rounds through his block should guarantee a win. Honestly, you can get there, it all depends on who can ignore the wife longer when spending on the car. Seriously, keep increasing boost as far as you can, and work on your launch.

Unreal · 06-13-2014, 04:07 PM

I love my 5.0. Ran 12.2 with used $100 xpipe CAI and mail order tune. Now with a converter it should be a solid 11.5-11.6 car.

490rwhp is really low end. He can easily see 600-650rwhp with the Paxton.

Turn up the turbos to ~650-700rwhp and get some good tires.

Fraxum · 06-16-2014, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Unreal

I love my 5.0. Ran 12.2 with used $100 xpipe CAI and mail order tune. Now with a converter it should be a solid 11.5-11.6 car.

490rwhp is really low end. He can easily see 600-650rwhp with the Paxton.

Turn up the turbos to ~650-700rwhp and get some good tires.

Yea, he has a really safe tune right now. And I think my boost limit is my fueling with only a ZL1 fuel pump. I may get better times once my NT 555Rs wear out, but these tires are so good on the street they are my every day tires.

If I can get my launch down to the 1.7 range (admittedly hard with the NT555Rs and a stick) I can run 11.4-6 and be right there with him.

But I am chasing windmills with my 200+ pound heavier IRS car.

But he is thinking of buying a 2015 GT once they come out. Then we may be more even.

05-16-2014, 03:25 PM	#44
Novie LE Drives: 2014 1LE Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sometimes here, sometimes there Posts: 399	He ran the times you are running now with a simple intake/xpipe/tune. Once he gets that car tuned it will be game over. If he decides to stall it, you might as well not even try cause he will have a low 10 second car if done right. You should stop worrying about beating your buddy imo, it will lead to a broken car and a wallet on your end __________________ 2014 Red Hot 1LE

05-31-2014, 10:29 PM	#46
Fraxum Drives: a M6 LT1 ordered From Becky!!! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 7,520	My car was back at RPM for some rework so I had them put in the 6 lb springs in the wastegates. Still with a conservative tune my 1LE picked up about 30 RWHP. And then I went back to Atco to find Pat and his SC 5.0. This upgrade made a nice difference and I started running 120-122 mph. My times were still hovering around 12.0 as I was have trouble launching. But the HP is there. Pat was also having traction problems so it was the perfect night for a rematch. But a track oil dump shortened the night so I only got to run Pat once. Unfortunately he beat my light again and ran a little faster. But it was a close race. But you can see he is still pulling me a little all the way down the track. Now with 90 more RWHP than Pat I think we are close enough so that if I can get consistent better 60s it can be a drivers race. Pat did hook on one run and went 11.4. Hopefully I can beat Pat before he gets his 15 inch DRs. I am #212. __________________ "Democracy Dies in Darkness" My LT1 Keeper ..... ..... My Car Blog CarPlayList, a free App to build USB and Android Music drives. Last edited by Fraxum; 06-01-2014 at 08:52 AM.

06-10-2014, 07:04 PM	#47
tc Bosnian Drives: 09 a4 1500 silverado 2010 2ss rs Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: fort wayne Posts: 309 View My Garage	Awesome thread! Good luck in beating him. Sounds like he is a very good driver. __________________ My mods: Kooks 1 7/8 Long Tubes - KN&N CAI - Borla Catback - 227/243-.614/.624-114 COMP CAM - 465 WHP and 445 torque.

06-13-2014, 12:21 AM	#54
derklug Drives: 12 Boss 302 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi Posts: 1,369	Gunpowder is your key to victory. Two or three rounds through his block should guarantee a win. Honestly, you can get there, it all depends on who can ignore the wife longer when spending on the car. Seriously, keep increasing boost as far as you can, and work on your launch. __________________ The biggest mistakes in life come when you know exactly what you are doing.

06-13-2014, 04:07 PM	#55
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	I love my 5.0. Ran 12.2 with used $100 xpipe CAI and mail order tune. Now with a converter it should be a solid 11.5-11.6 car. 490rwhp is really low end. He can easily see 600-650rwhp with the Paxton. Turn up the turbos to ~650-700rwhp and get some good tires. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

05-16-2014, 04:16 PM	#45
87GNX Drives: Alot Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Norcalifas Posts: 1,337	the 5th gen coyote mustang is a beast and best left alone if you dont drop more $$$$ than your buddy. My friend's 2013 auto dropped into the low 11's with full boltons. and into the 10's with just a 75 shot in hot muggy air

06-10-2014, 11:29 PM	#48
alaskacamaro Drives: 2012 2SS 45TH Anniversary Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Kentucky Posts: 720	This thread reminds me of "Moby Dick" for some reason...

06-11-2014, 06:31 PM	#49
molsonbrador Drives: 2010 Camaro SS, 2018 Colorado Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: NC Posts: 2,207	How's the car running? I'm hoping to get down to Atco soon. Next Tuesday or Friday hopefully.

06-11-2014, 06:43 PM	#50
Need4speed_motorsports Drives: 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Glendale, CA Posts: 4,656 View My Garage	You gotta keep in mind that a 5.0 is about 400 lbs lighter than a camaro. Plus what kind of tires are you running, and have you touched your suspension? Youd be surprised how big a difference a linear spring rate is vs a progressive spring.

06-12-2014, 06:30 AM	#52
SGOS252382 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: S.W. Florida Posts: 6,294	[QUOTE=SGOS252382;7738168]I was about to say, I ran faster 60' times when my L99 only had an intake for mods. 20" NT555Rs (bolt ons) got me 1.74 sec 60' You get that 60' time down where it should be and you'll be running low 11s.