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Nightspore68 · 11-13-2013, 04:59 PM

Now that I've discovered Texas roads have even less friction than Georgia roads, I'm concerned about colder day traction again. (Perhaps because it was about 38 degrees F or so on the ride to work this morning.) In my experience, the Goodyear Eagle F1s are pretty terrible below around 60 degrees (F), even on good asphalt.

Does anyone know if the Pirelli P Zero Max Performance is any better than the stock Goodyears for colder temps?

If not, I guess I'll get some winter tires, which seems silly in TX...

rebelyell22 · 11-13-2013, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightspore68

Now that I've discovered Texas roads have even less friction than Georgia roads, I'm concerned about colder day traction again. (Perhaps because it was about 38 degrees F or so on the ride to work this morning.) In my experience, the Goodyear Eagle F1s are pretty terrible below around 60 degrees (F), even on good asphalt.

Does anyone know if the Michelin P Zero Max Performance is any better than the stock Goodyears for colder temps?

If not, I guess I'll get some winter tires, which seems silly in TX...

P Zero is Pirelli

Nightspore68 · 11-13-2013, 05:16 PM

Oops, I meant Pirelli P Zero. I wonder if I can change the thread title...

*SSE 4 2SS* · 11-13-2013, 05:26 PM

Any extreme performance summer tire is pretty bad in cool weather... I've had both you are asking about... If you are stuck driving even in bad/cold weather, a better all season tire may be just the right fix... If you want to try a set of Pirellis, I have mine still on the factory wheels... About 23,000 miles on the fronts and 3000 miles on the rears...

strych9 · 11-13-2013, 05:57 PM

Pirellis are not very good below 40*F.

joes407 · 11-13-2013, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by strych9

Pirellis are not very good below 40*F.

but they don't seem to crack

rebelyell22 · 11-13-2013, 08:44 PM

I'm running the BFG G Force Sport Comp 2. Amazing tire in the dry, wet, and so far....the cold

John E · 11-13-2013, 09:12 PM

Texas roads are slippery year round. All season tires would better suit you in Texas. Just sayin. I have experienced this in an 06 Z06.

rvnmaniac · 11-13-2013, 10:38 PM

Well it was 24 degrees this morning and my new Continental Extreme DWS tires were just what the doctor ordered. I hear they are not too bad in the snow but i don't have any plans on driving the Camaro in those conditions.

strych9 · 11-14-2013, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by joes407

but they don't seem to crack

Correct!

Nightspore68 · 11-14-2013, 01:30 PM

Wouldn't all season tires be better in the winter but then worse in the summer?
Can we even get all season tires? Tire Rack only shows the OEM Goodyears and the Pirelli P Zeros for a ZL-1, and they're both summer only. If I unselect all the Summer filters, I'm left with nothing.

Nightspore68 · 11-14-2013, 01:56 PM

Tire Rack recommended I get Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3, which are $1248 plus shipping. They're all the same size, 285/35/20, but they say these will fit on all four factory wheels. Seems like they ought to be too narrow for the rear wheels, but I guess they know what they're doing.

rebelyell22 · 11-14-2013, 02:02 PM

You will be fine with summer tires in DFW. I would go with the Michelin Pilot Super Sports

Youngone · 11-15-2013, 08:21 AM

At about 70 degrees my l99 2ss will light them very quickly. It seems to me these tires aren't very sticky at 90 degrees either from a 20 roll it still easy to burn them off. But of course, I like white smoke.

11-13-2013, 04:59 PM	#1
Nightspore68 Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL-1, Victory Red Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 378	Pirelli P Zero better in the cold? Now that I've discovered Texas roads have even less friction than Georgia roads, I'm concerned about colder day traction again. (Perhaps because it was about 38 degrees F or so on the ride to work this morning.) In my experience, the Goodyear Eagle F1s are pretty terrible below around 60 degrees (F), even on good asphalt. Does anyone know if the Pirelli P Zero Max Performance is any better than the stock Goodyears for colder temps? If not, I guess I'll get some winter tires, which seems silly in TX... Last edited by Nightspore68; 11-13-2013 at 05:17 PM. Reason: wrong brand mentioned

11-13-2013, 05:26 PM	#4
SSE 4 2SS Boosted Moderator Drives: Bone Stock LS3 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Marion Tx Posts: 15,488	Any extreme performance summer tire is pretty bad in cool weather... I've had both you are asking about... If you are stuck driving even in bad/cold weather, a better all season tire may be just the right fix... If you want to try a set of Pirellis, I have mine still on the factory wheels... About 23,000 miles on the fronts and 3000 miles on the rears... __________________ If the car feels like it is on rails, you are probably driving too slow. -Ross Bentley Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you. “If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough.” Mario Andretti If you can turn, you ain't going fast enough...

11-13-2013, 05:57 PM	#5
strych9 I'll be back... Drives: Subaru, HD Road Glide Special Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 3,036 View My Garage	Pirellis are not very good below 40F. __________________ Bye bye, Bumblebee!* --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Build Journal My Garage GoPro Mic Hack

11-13-2013, 08:44 PM	#7
rebelyell22 Drives: 2011 SIM 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Tupelo, MS Posts: 5,902	I'm running the BFG G Force Sport Comp 2. Amazing tire in the dry, wet, and so far....the cold __________________ 2011 2SS/RS built 8/24/10

11-14-2013, 01:56 PM	#12
Nightspore68 Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL-1, Victory Red Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 378	Tire Rack recommended I get Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3, which are $1248 plus shipping. They're all the same size, 285/35/20, but they say these will fit on all four factory wheels. Seems like they ought to be too narrow for the rear wheels, but I guess they know what they're doing. Last edited by Nightspore68; 11-14-2013 at 01:56 PM. Reason: typo

11-13-2013, 05:16 PM	#3
Nightspore68 Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL-1, Victory Red Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 378	Oops, I meant Pirelli P Zero. I wonder if I can change the thread title...

11-13-2013, 09:12 PM	#8
John E Drives: 2014 2SS rs 6M Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Palm Beach Posts: 168	Texas roads are slippery year round. All season tires would better suit you in Texas. Just sayin. I have experienced this in an 06 Z06.

11-13-2013, 10:38 PM	#9
rvnmaniac Drives: 2012 M6 ZL1. 2019 Altima.07 FJR1300 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: MD Posts: 665	Well it was 24 degrees this morning and my new Continental Extreme DWS tires were just what the doctor ordered. I hear they are not too bad in the snow but i don't have any plans on driving the Camaro in those conditions.

11-14-2013, 01:30 PM	#11
Nightspore68 Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL-1, Victory Red Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 378	Wouldn't all season tires be better in the winter but then worse in the summer? Can we even get all season tires? Tire Rack only shows the OEM Goodyears and the Pirelli P Zeros for a ZL-1, and they're both summer only. If I unselect all the Summer filters, I'm left with nothing.

11-14-2013, 02:02 PM	#13
rebelyell22 Drives: 2011 SIM 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Tupelo, MS Posts: 5,902	You will be fine with summer tires in DFW. I would go with the Michelin Pilot Super Sports __________________ 2011 2SS/RS built 8/24/10

11-15-2013, 08:21 AM	#14
Youngone Drives: Supercharged 2013 2SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Mississippi Posts: 231	At about 70 degrees my l99 2ss will light them very quickly. It seems to me these tires aren't very sticky at 90 degrees either from a 20 roll it still easy to burn them off. But of course, I like white smoke.