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wullger · 05-19-2009, 03:58 PM

oh noes! the sky is falling!

Read a little more in-depth about the story today, OP. That'll clear this up for ya

2Scoops · 05-19-2009, 04:00 PM

Why all the worry over the year 2016???

The world is gonna end in 2012 according to the Aztecs. I for one plan on driving my Camaro straight to the gates of hell.

kozmo · 05-19-2009, 04:06 PM

By then King Obama will have his own Camaro and will make it exempt from the rules

westvanGT · 05-19-2009, 04:13 PM

I don't know about every one else, but I'd be damn pleased to see a 2016 camaro with a ~5.0L DI V8 that is smaller and weighs less. If they could get by with 3000lbs that'd be one potent package and would go a long ways to getting the FE up there so it doesn't hurt the CAFE too much...

Super Sport · 05-19-2009, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morepwr

maybe a camaro hybrid

Toyota is already working on a hybrid sports car set to be released in 2011. Supposed to replace the Supra and have a 0-60 time of around 4 seconds... but I think that the fact it will be hybrid will null the possibility of a manual transmission. Maybe a twin-clutch like in the Evo is possible?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_FT-HS

Can't wait to see this thing and can't wait to see the future of sports cars.

mkaresh · 05-19-2009, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by westvanGT

I don't know about every one else, but I'd be damn pleased to see a 2016 camaro with a ~5.0L DI V8 that is smaller and weighs less. If they could get by with 3000lbs that'd be one potent package and would go a long ways to getting the FE up there so it doesn't hurt the CAFE too much...

The largest impediment here is that GM probably won't be willing to invest its limited financial resources in a new or updated V8. Any reasonably solid rumors about adding DI to the current V8 family?

patriotpa · 05-19-2009, 04:56 PM

I have the pickup I want. My Camaro's on order. With proper care, I'll never need another vehicle.

F 'em!

*radz28* · 05-19-2009, 05:23 PM

It looks like I better order before 2012...

I'd like to better understand how the government proposes the manufacturers get that high. The obvious answer is lighter cars and smaller engines, but is that what people in general are going to want? Not me, personally. I've about given up thinking about this because all it does is anger me...

nards444 · 05-19-2009, 05:24 PM

its not going to be due to gas mileage because the technology exsist or will exsist by then. It will depend on consumer demand

CWI · 05-19-2009, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Scoops

Why all the worry over the year 2016???

The world is gonna end in 2012 according to the Aztecs. I for one plan on driving my Camaro straight to the gates of hell.

That's the Mayan calender you are thinking of.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1camaro70

I believe the last Camaro on the present platform is 2014, after that it would go to a new/ other smaller platform, so probably lighter and NO V-8, get your V-8's while you can.

Seeing as CAFE goes by averages the V8 will be around for a long time. Electrics and Hybrids will counter the MPGs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattsack789

If you didn't see, Obama unveiled the new Emissions and mileage standards today. All cars must get 35+ MPG by 2016. Does this mean the death of the Camaro? Death of SUV's? Death of all American sports cars? I hope we won't end up driving Fiat 500's and electric Mini's from now on.

I'm not sure I saw the same news. What I saw on the news at noon today was 42MPG average for cars and 27 for light trucks. As for Obama, he needs to be strapped into a '73 Pinto to play bumper cars or demo derby.

PQ · 05-19-2009, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super Sport

Toyota is already working on a hybrid sports car set to be released in 2011. Supposed to replace the Supra and have a 0-60 time of around 4 seconds... but I think that the fact it will be hybrid will null the possibility of a manual transmission. Maybe a twin-clutch like in the Evo is possible?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_FT-HS

Can't wait to see this thing and can't wait to see the future of sports cars.

Uh.... is it just me or are those rims AWESOME.

Joe Remi · 05-19-2009, 06:44 PM

The future cars will be smaller and lighter. Maybe not what us old farts want, but look at what your kids are driving. The consumer demand for these cars is in perfect sync with the 2016 timeline. Its right about then these kids will be dumping money on brand new cars, including a current-Civic-sized Turbo-4/hybrid Camaro. This old fart wishes he could get one now. I like the new Camaro, but wish it was a little smaller and a lot lighter.

NYCLS3 · 05-19-2009, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irpq11

Uh.... is it just me or are those rims AWESOME.

Yes...I do think those rims are full of WIN.

Tal · 05-19-2009, 07:09 PM

As others have point out this is fleet average, and any stated goals beyond 2012 are very subject to change.

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05-19-2009, 03:58 PM	#15
wullger Supercharged Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Tyler, Texas Posts: 1,576 View My Garage	oh noes! the sky is falling! Read a little more in-depth about the story today, OP. That'll clear this up for ya

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kozmo Drives: 2010 Camaro SS M6 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: flint mi Posts: 47	By then King Obama will have his own Camaro and will make it exempt from the rules

05-19-2009, 04:13 PM	#18
westvanGT Drives: 2006 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2009 Location: Vancouver Posts: 21	I don't know about every one else, but I'd be damn pleased to see a 2016 camaro with a ~5.0L DI V8 that is smaller and weighs less. If they could get by with 3000lbs that'd be one potent package and would go a long ways to getting the FE up there so it doesn't hurt the CAFE too much...

05-19-2009, 04:56 PM	#21
patriotpa Account Suspended Drives: 02 Silverado, 09 Vue, 10 1SS Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Tired of apologizing when we should be kickin' butt! Posts: 1,966 View My Garage	I have the pickup I want. My Camaro's on order. With proper care, I'll never need another vehicle. F 'em!

05-19-2009, 05:24 PM	#23
nards444 Drives: 1SS/RS Black Join Date: May 2009 Location: New york Posts: 2,123 View My Garage	its not going to be due to gas mileage because the technology exsist or will exsist by then. It will depend on consumer demand

05-19-2009, 06:44 PM	#26
Joe Remi Drives: '17 Impala V6 LT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Novato CA. Posts: 323	The future cars will be smaller and lighter. Maybe not what us old farts want, but look at what your kids are driving. The consumer demand for these cars is in perfect sync with the 2016 timeline. Its right about then these kids will be dumping money on brand new cars, including a current-Civic-sized Turbo-4/hybrid Camaro. This old fart wishes he could get one now. I like the new Camaro, but wish it was a little smaller and a lot lighter.

05-19-2009, 07:09 PM	#28
Tal Drives: Old Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: OK Posts: 726	As others have point out this is fleet average, and any stated goals beyond 2012 are very subject to change.