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Old 06-09-2010, 09:06 PM   #1
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E-Force uses Ford supercharged MAP senser

Edelbrock uses Ford 2R3A 9F479 AA MAP senser on the E-Force supercharger. Also has IAT senser built in. I believe this is used on Ford supercharged motors.Can this be tuned like a 3 bar GM MAP in 2010 SS.Thanks
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Old 06-09-2010, 09:37 PM   #2
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If a person knows the pressure range that the sensor operates with, then you can recalibrate the sensor settings in the tune file. I can't find the data on that sensor, though.

Below shows the calibration data from a stock LS3 MAP sensor.


If possible, use a ZR1/LS9 MAP sensor (part number 12592525, MAP Sensor Linear 312.50 kPa, MAP Sensor Offset -11.25 kPa).
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Old 06-09-2010, 09:55 PM   #3
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I wonder if these are interchangable.Would love to stay GM LOL
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Old 06-09-2010, 10:28 PM   #4
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I wonder if these are interchangable.Would love to stay GM LOL
If the hole size on the Edelbrock setup is the same as on the LS3 intake, and you can make sure the MAP stays clamped down, then there's no reason you can't use an LS9 sensor.
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Old 06-10-2010, 01:05 AM   #5
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I just found that out last week and had a problem get my car tune because of this. Edelbrock had to send and update so you can tune it ask Mike at Haddad Motorsports he can help you with any question about this.
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Old 06-10-2010, 04:47 AM   #6
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Because of where this senser is located it is hard remove . My other quesion is about the IAT part. Seems like temps seem higher then they should be.
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Old 06-10-2010, 07:26 AM   #7
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Can you supply a picture of the MAP sensor location?

What IATs are you seeing? Mine usually run around 25 degrees higher than ambient temperatures when cruising and can go as high as 35 degrees above ambient when running hard or sitting in traffic.
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From a discussion on the HPT forum:

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I had a similar issue, ended up being the MAP/IAT out of calibration.
MAP Sensor Linear use 223.43
MAP Sensor Offset use -7.88
IAT sensor Cal (make sure the labels match as well)
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Old 06-11-2010, 06:49 PM   #10
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If a person knows the pressure range that the sensor operates with, then you can recalibrate the sensor settings in the tune file. I can't find the data on that sensor, though.

Below shows the calibration data from a stock LS3 MAP sensor.


If possible, use a ZR1/LS9 MAP sensor (part number 12592525, MAP Sensor Linear 312.50 kPa, MAP Sensor Offset -11.25 kPa).
DSteck, here's my numbers off Edelbrock tune

MAP sensor Linear 223.43 kPa
MAP Sensor Offset -7.88 kPa

SCIAP linear 0
SCIAP linear 0
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DSteck, here's my numbers off Edelbrock tune

MAP sensor Linear 223.43 kPa
MAP Sensor Offset -7.88 kPa

SCIAP linear 0
SCIAP linear 0
Looks to be the same as what I had posted off the HP Tuners board. Should work out for you!
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Old 06-11-2010, 07:12 PM   #12
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Tommorow I will test with my wide band to make sure AFR is good. I built a custom GM IAT sensor to test against Ford unit for accuracy.
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I ran into an issue with the IAT sensor recently when installing an E-Force setup. It would only read 30 degrees fahrenheit. I checked all of the connections and must have had a loose pin in the Edelbrock harness, after checking continuity and having everything check out the IAT read normal. The MAP sensor is for an '03 Mustang Cobra and the tables in the Edelbrock tune are "very" close to being scaled the same as the Ford tables. Don't know if this helps any, just thought I would share the experience.


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