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Dr Jkel · 08-24-2012, 01:13 PM

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Caddyroger · 08-24-2012, 05:51 PM

You can not buy engine oil it goes buy motor oil. So if it motor oil then goes into a motor.

habunow1 · 08-24-2012, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Parabolica

just as motor skills doesn't refer to how well you work on engines.

By strict definition: all engines are motors, but not all motors are engines. There is a difference.

Now I am really confused because when the doctors at the hospital refered to motor skill I took it as a measure of the dexterity or the ease of use of hands and such

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motorhead · 08-24-2012, 06:58 PM

This is the dumbest thread on the internet. Someone needs to go out and enjoy their camaro and stop trying to think too much. Motor engine, who cares.

*SSE 4 2SS* · 08-24-2012, 07:15 PM

As with most anything, the terms used by the general populous become accepted terms.

By engineering standards, yes an engine is in an internal combustion device the imparts power or motion etc....

A motor is typically powered by electricity. it can also be a slave device in a hydraulic system... Ie... thruster motor.... And there is no electricity used in it.

However, the only people that recognize and adhere to this are engineers,and not all of them do so...

General Motors, Oldsmobile Motor Company, Ford Motor Company, etc, along with numerous European auto manufacturers used the term in their company names and it became standard to refer to the power plants as motors... After 120 + years, it is perfectly normal to refer to the power plants as motors...

kalimus · 08-24-2012, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SSE 4 2SS

By engineering standards, yes an engine is in an internal combustion device the imparts power or motion etc....

A motor is typically powered by electricity. it can also be a slave device in a hydraulic system... Ie... thruster motor.... And there is no electricity used in it.

This. The difference really is how they make the mechanical energy required for the motion. "Motors" use electricity". "Engines" generally use a combustible fuel.

They are both, by the strict definition of the word, motors.

DarkneSS · 08-24-2012, 08:24 PM

All I'm saying is, is that when someone pulls up to brag about the extensive work they put into their engine and call it a motor, it just sounds silly in my head. For general laid back chat say motor. But if you're going to try and sound technical and talk in depth about your car, use the damn right terms.

Lol at mad posts in this thread though, ultimately I REALLY dont care. Call it whatever you want.

*DGthe3* · 08-26-2012, 04:11 PM

After researching quite a few theories on this subject this afternoon, I can confidently say that the two terms should be interchangeable. Both turn energy of varying sources and convert them into mechanical motion. Some sources cite engine as being an all encompassing term, while others use motor.

However, there seem to be a few contextual rules for determining when motor should be used instead of engine.

If heat is the primary input to the device, then it should probably be called an engine
If electricity, fluid pressure (pneumatic or hydraulic), or elastic energy is the primary input go with motor
If the device is of relatively simple construction and/or operation then motor would be the preferred term
If it extracts energy from a moving fluid, don't use engine or motor. Call it a turbine (also ... don't call it a turban)

Also ... I found out why motors are used to describe the mechanical device that propels automobiles. In the early days, steam powered cars were fairly common. And at the time, the term engine was predominantly associated with steam engines. So to distinguish the cars powered by internal combustion engines from their steam counterparts, manufactures began using the term motor.

techinny · 08-26-2012, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by motorhead

This is the dumbest thread on the internet. Someone needs to go out and enjoy their camaro and stop trying to think too much. Motor engine, who cares.

I agree with enginehead, oh, sorry, motorhead.

Avenging Orange · 08-27-2012, 12:19 AM

A loco engine traveling at 30mph starts its journey in Chicago. An engine home starts at the same location traveling at 55mph. Their destination is the Engine City of Detroit. They start at the same time but the engine home gets detoured due to a fire and fire motors are blocking the road. At what speed will the engine home...............uhh..........the loco ...train.......the....WTF!
This would never work in mathmatics...........lets just let it go.

Steve Dallas · 08-27-2012, 12:26 AM

Motor = Engine

If you believe otherwise, you must not have traveled around the country to hear it called either.

Motorcycle. So...what's the motor there. An engine?

DMV (Department of MOTOR Vehicles).

I could go on....but I'm really not sure I see the OP's point here.

AdamZ · 08-27-2012, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DGthe3

After researching quite a few theories on this subject this afternoon, I can confidently say that the two terms should be interchangeable. Both turn energy of varying sources and convert them into mechanical motion. Some sources cite engine as being an all encompassing term, while others use motor.

However, there seem to be a few contextual rules for determining when motor should be used instead of engine.

If heat is the primary input to the device, then it should probably be called an engine
If electricity, fluid pressure (pneumatic or hydraulic), or elastic energy is the primary input go with motor
If the device is of relatively simple construction and/or operation then motor would be the preferred term
If it extracts energy from a moving fluid, don't use engine or motor. Call it a turbine (also ... don't call it a turban)

Also ... I found out why motors are used to describe the mechanical device that propels automobiles. In the early days, steam powered cars were fairly common. And at the time, the term engine was predominantly associated with steam engines. So to distinguish the cars powered by internal combustion engines from their steam counterparts, manufactures began using the term motor.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Dallas

Motor = Engine

If you believe otherwise, you must not have traveled around the country to hear it called either.

Motorcycle. So...what's the motor there. An engine?

DMV (Department of MOTOR Vehicles).

I could go on....but I'm really not sure I see the OP's point here.

Mr Twisty · 08-27-2012, 08:38 AM

OP, if you want to correct mis-information, take on the 'wheel-rim' debacle.

A wheel is made up of a hub, spokes and rim.

When you see a car with cool wheels, tell the owner, "Nice hubs, man." ... maybe you'll start a new fad

MikeSVX · 08-27-2012, 10:15 AM

Well, If your driving a Volt (or any other hybrid), you have motors and an engine.

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08-24-2012, 07:15 PM	#33
SSE 4 2SS Boosted Moderator Drives: Bone Stock LS3 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Marion Tx Posts: 15,477	As with most anything, the terms used by the general populous become accepted terms. By engineering standards, yes an engine is in an internal combustion device the imparts power or motion etc.... A motor is typically powered by electricity. it can also be a slave device in a hydraulic system... Ie... thruster motor.... And there is no electricity used in it. However, the only people that recognize and adhere to this are engineers,and not all of them do so... General Motors, Oldsmobile Motor Company, Ford Motor Company, etc, along with numerous European auto manufacturers used the term in their company names and it became standard to refer to the power plants as motors... After 120 + years, it is perfectly normal to refer to the power plants as motors... __________________ If the car feels like it is on rails, you are probably driving too slow. -Ross Bentley Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you. “If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough.” Mario Andretti If you can turn, you ain't going fast enough...

08-26-2012, 04:11 PM	#36
DGthe3 Moderator.ca Drives: 05 Grand Am GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Niagara, Canada Posts: 25,372	After researching quite a few theories on this subject this afternoon, I can confidently say that the two terms should be interchangeable. Both turn energy of varying sources and convert them into mechanical motion. Some sources cite engine as being an all encompassing term, while others use motor. However, there seem to be a few contextual rules for determining when motor should be used instead of engine. If heat is the primary input to the device, then it should probably be called an engine If electricity, fluid pressure (pneumatic or hydraulic), or elastic energy is the primary input go with motor If the device is of relatively simple construction and/or operation then motor would be the preferred term If it extracts energy from a moving fluid, don't use engine or motor. Call it a turbine (also ... don't call it a turban) Also ... I found out why motors are used to describe the mechanical device that propels automobiles. In the early days, steam powered cars were fairly common. And at the time, the term engine was predominantly associated with steam engines. So to distinguish the cars powered by internal combustion engines from their steam counterparts, manufactures began using the term motor. __________________ Note, if I've gotten any facts wrong in the above, just ignore any points I made with them __________________ Originally Posted by FbodFather My sister's dentist's brother's cousin's housekeeper's dog-breeder's nephew sells coffee filters to the company that provides coffee to General Motors...... ........and HE WOULD KNOW!!!! __________________ Camaro Fest sub-forum

08-27-2012, 12:19 AM	#38
Avenging Orange Drives: 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Clermont, IN Posts: 3,297	A loco engine traveling at 30mph starts its journey in Chicago. An engine home starts at the same location traveling at 55mph. Their destination is the Engine City of Detroit. They start at the same time but the engine home gets detoured due to a fire and fire motors are blocking the road. At what speed will the engine home...............uhh..........the loco ...train.......the....WTF! This would never work in mathmatics...........lets just let it go. __________________ 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS M6 Black Leather, Sun Roof, OBX Headers, Borla touring axle back, Cold Air Inductions CAI , non synthetic fluids, BMR total bushing upgrade/1" lowering springs, DSE 32mm rear sway bar. GM fe4 shocks/struts/LCA's, AAM 3.91 diff, Vertini RFS1.8 20x9 +30. Conti ExtremeContact Sport 275/35/20. sjm autoprod ABL dash kit. Mike Norris tuned 413/419. Avenging Orange: 43 years of not buying into the Hype........and damn proud of it!! https://youtu.be/9JD9it6SmB8 https://youtu.be/xmelTlEzI34 KICKING CANCERS ASS SINCE 2015!!

08-27-2012, 12:26 AM	#39
Steve Dallas Commits weekly crime Drives: 2017 Camaro 1LT Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Camano Island, WA Posts: 9,513 View My Garage	Motor = Engine If you believe otherwise, you must not have traveled around the country to hear it called either. Motorcycle. So...what's the motor there. An engine? DMV (Department of MOTOR Vehicles). I could go on....but I'm really not sure I see the OP's point here. __________________ 2017 Camaro 1LT - Blue Barchetta IV I fire up the willing engine, responding with a roar. Tires spitting gravel I commit my weekly crime.

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Dr Jkel and MR. HYDE Drives: 2010 2SS RJT/BLK 6Spd Man Join Date: May 2009 Location: Oxford, Alabama Posts: 4,375	Baseball, Hot Dogas Apple Pie and Chevrolet

08-24-2012, 06:58 PM	#32
motorhead Drives: Love the one you're with Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Downtown Charlie Brown Posts: 11,850	This is the dumbest thread on the internet. Someone needs to go out and enjoy their camaro and stop trying to think too much. Motor engine, who cares.

08-24-2012, 08:24 PM	#35
DarkneSS Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS 6MT Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Westchester, New York Posts: 3,715	All I'm saying is, is that when someone pulls up to brag about the extensive work they put into their engine and call it a motor, it just sounds silly in my head. For general laid back chat say motor. But if you're going to try and sound technical and talk in depth about your car, use the damn right terms. Lol at mad posts in this thread though, ultimately I REALLY dont care. Call it whatever you want.

08-27-2012, 08:38 AM	#41
Mr Twisty Drives: the 2nd amendment home Join Date: May 2008 Location: OK Posts: 14,707	OP, if you want to correct mis-information, take on the 'wheel-rim' debacle. A wheel is made up of a hub, spokes and rim. When you see a car with cool wheels, tell the owner, "Nice hubs, man." ... maybe you'll start a new fad __________________ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin

08-27-2012, 10:15 AM	#42
MikeSVX The magic smoke genie.... Drives: Jewels (2010 RJT 1SS) Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Escondido, CA Posts: 2,294	Well, If your driving a Volt (or any other hybrid), you have motors and an engine.