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BkinBlk · 06-23-2015, 11:57 AM

I am in no way faulting those of you that spend hours and big $ cleaning, waxing etc. etc. I commend you on wanting and having the drive to do so. But what is the purpose to spend that much time and money cleaning your car? Unless you have a show car. I do buy my cleaning supplies from Walmart and wash the car when it is dirty. And just about any Joe/Josephine off the street probably won't notice the difference from what I do and what those of you that spend hours cleaning yours do. Is spending that much time and money going to make your car last longer than mine? Just some questions and in NO WAY criticizing those of you that do.

JimE · 06-23-2015, 01:31 PM

Most of the people that spend the time and money cleaning their cars, do it on a regular basis (ie: at least once a week) and not just "when it's dirty". And yes, after a few years you will be able to tell the difference. Keeping it clean makes is easier to clean and helps prevent the stains/water marks, etc. that are common on cars that aren't kept clean.

No offense meant, but the typical person that just washes a car when it's dirty, also doesn't spend the time to actually get it clean.

I don't spend a lot of money on supplies, but I spend money on quality products. There are some useable products at WalMart, but I'd rather spend a little more and get a better product.

DARK AGE 53 · 06-23-2015, 02:34 PM

Some people look at a car and say it's just a car, those who believe that will never understand why some of us take such good car of our cars.

Joe M 2012 2SS · 06-23-2015, 03:13 PM

It's just a matter of personal preference. I enjoy keeping my car looking it's absolute best. No it's not a show car and will never be, but I get a sense of satisfaction of keeping it as clean and scratch free as I possibly can.

I cannot buy products at Wal-Mart that will accomplish this. They don't sell any high lubricity soaps, they do sell a foam gun but it's a piece of junk, they don't sell any high quality microfiber for washing, drying, or wax/sealant removal, but only Chinese that is much more brittle and susceptible to marring the surface. The waxes they sell are all lower end, and will stain trim.

But if someone is happy with the results they get with stuff sold at Wal-Mart, it is their car, and as long as they are happy, that's all that matters.

Some people enjoy racing their cars, I've never raced mine and never will, just not my thing. If someone else enjoys that, go for it, have fun.

As far as lasting longer, that has to do with how well/often the regular maintenance is done. Oil, transmission, filters, brakes, etc., and also how the car is driven.

Keeping the exterior/interior surfaces in the best shape you can will have an impact on the resale value as well. But for most detailing enthusiasts, personal pride of having a clean, shiny, swirl free ride is why it's done. Plus, I like it when a complete stranger comes up to me and says, "Your car looks ______"

(beautiful, awesome, terrific) or whatever superlative they choose.

Jackpot · 06-23-2015, 03:33 PM

[QUOTE=Joe M 2012 2SS;8497506]It's just a matter of personal
I cannot buy products at Wal-Mart that will accomplish this. They don't sell any high lubricity soaps, they do sell a foam gun but it's a piece of junk, they don't sell any high quality microfiber for washing, drying, or wax/sealant removal, but only Chinese that is much more brittle and susceptible to marring the surface. The waxes they sell are all lower end, and will stain trim.

I disagree the Meguiar's Ultimate line can be found at walmart all base of Detailer line of products, witch do a good job Ultimate wax dose not stain trim.

Joe M 2012 2SS · 06-23-2015, 03:52 PM

[QUOTE=Jackpot;8497541]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe M 2012 2SS

It's just a matter of personal
I cannot buy products at Wal-Mart that will accomplish this. They don't sell any high lubricity soaps, they do sell a foam gun but it's a piece of junk, they don't sell any high quality microfiber for washing, drying, or wax/sealant removal, but only Chinese that is much more brittle and susceptible to marring the surface. The waxes they sell are all lower end, and will stain trim.

I disagree the Meguiar's Ultimate line can be found at walmart all base of Detailer line of products, witch do a good job Ultimate wax dose not stain trim.

I haven't used Ultimate Wax, so I will rephrase and say "most" they sell will stain trim. The objective of a wax or sealant is protection, the UPW from what I have researched gets about 3-4 months of durability, which isn't bad, but their are much better available.

I have used UC and UP. Their are other products that will provide better cut and finish down to a much higher gloss than these can achieve.

I have seen none of the "Detailer Line" of Megs products at any Wal-Mart I've been to. This could vary from store to store.

seven · 06-23-2015, 05:09 PM

What's the point in you wanting a response to explain our selves. You seem comfortable with your routine.

Jackpot · 06-23-2015, 06:10 PM

[QUOTE=Joe M 2012 2SS;8497570]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackpot

I haven't used Ultimate Wax, so I will rephrase and say "most" they sell will stain trim. The objective of a wax or sealant is protection, the UPW from what I have researched gets about 3-4 months of durability, which isn't bad, but their are much better available.

I have used UC and UP. Their are other products that will provide better cut and finish down to a much higher gloss than these can achieve.

I have seen none of the "Detailer Line" of Megs products at any Wal-Mart I've been to. This could vary from store to store.

UC and UP are base on 105 and 205 with more oil so they have less cut but
I find they dust a lot less and I think they finish better.
and 105 and 205 are all I use in my paint room.

Joe M 2012 2SS · 06-23-2015, 06:15 PM

For the OP, since you live in Wisconsin, if you upgraded to one better product than you currently use, I would make it Collinite 845 wax.

I'm sure the winter months are tough up there, and this will provide you with excellent protection for your paint. It's not very expensive either, around $18 a bottle, you just have to warm it up and shake it really well to dissolve all the clumps in it, and put it on thin. It will by far trump any kind of protection that's available at Wal-Mart.

pickwithaustin · 06-23-2015, 06:19 PM

If you're not a "car guy," you'll never understand.
(and I'd never buy things for my car in a Walmart, eek)

flyinlow89 · 06-23-2015, 06:20 PM

It's because we ARE the ones who will notice the difference. Once we notice, we cant unnotice. Cleaning my car is therapeutic (except the interior) but I enjoy driving my car much much more when the interior is clean so I spend time doing that as well. Most of the equipment is a one time purchase and those big purchases (ie polisher) will improve the condition of your car. As far as chemicals go, I buy bulk and high quality products which are generally more concentrated which means you use less. So I probably spend less on chemicals than a Walmart or pep boys shopper

Jackpot · 06-23-2015, 06:20 PM

Collinite 845 wax will out last Ultimate Wax but Ultimate Wax is much more user friendly. so it depends on what your after.

Jackpot · 06-23-2015, 06:25 PM

perp is the key to finish and how long a wax will last so if you just washing and applying wax your better off with a wax from walmart that has a cleaner and fillers in the mix.

seven · 06-23-2015, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pickwithaustin

If you're not a "car guy," you'll never understand.
(and I'd never buy things for my car in a Walmart, eek)

I WILL NOT ever drive my car into a WalMart parking lot

06-23-2015, 11:57 AM	#1
BkinBlk Drives: 2015 2LT RS Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 247	Car detailing I am in no way faulting those of you that spend hours and big $ cleaning, waxing etc. etc. I commend you on wanting and having the drive to do so. But what is the purpose to spend that much time and money cleaning your car? Unless you have a show car. I do buy my cleaning supplies from Walmart and wash the car when it is dirty. And just about any Joe/Josephine off the street probably won't notice the difference from what I do and what those of you that spend hours cleaning yours do. Is spending that much time and money going to make your car last longer than mine? Just some questions and in NO WAY criticizing those of you that do.

06-23-2015, 02:34 PM	#3
DARK AGE 53 Drives: 2010 SS Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mi./Al. Posts: 829	Some people look at a car and say it's just a car, those who believe that will never understand why some of us take such good car of our cars. __________________ POW/MIA - YOU ARE LOST BUT NOT FORGOTTEN IN SOUTHEAST ASIA

06-23-2015, 05:09 PM	#7
seven Drives: 2015 Camaro RS 2LT AGM Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 672	What's the point in you wanting a response to explain our selves. You seem comfortable with your routine. __________________ 2015 RS Camaro 2LT with Sunroof, Performance Exhaust, Ground Effects, Tinted Windows, LED Fog Lights(DD), CAI Cold Air Intake, Ghosted Side Markers(Showstopper), Elite Catch Can, Xpel & SunTek PPF, Replica Z28 High Wing Spoiler, ZL1 Replica Wheels(Satin Black Factory Reproductions)

06-23-2015, 06:19 PM	#10
pickwithaustin Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS Convertible and: Join Date: May 2014 Location: Central Texas Posts: 1,863	If you're not a "car guy," you'll never understand. (and I'd never buy things for my car in a Walmart, eek) __________________ --------------------------- Currently in my Garage: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS Convertible \| 1980 Corvette Stingray \| 1981 Firebird \| 1968 El Camino \| 2007 Crown Vic Police Interceptor \| 2001 Silverado \| 2001 Blazer \| 1965 Chevy C-10 \| 2007 Harley Softail Custom \| 2013 MX-5 in Copper Red Mica \| 2000 Corvette Convertible \| 2010 Corvette Grand Sport \| 2006 Audi A3 Turbo \| 2008 BMW 328i

06-23-2015, 06:20 PM	#11
flyinlow89 Smoke Alotapotomous Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Brechin, Ontario Posts: 955	It's because we ARE the ones who will notice the difference. Once we notice, we cant unnotice. Cleaning my car is therapeutic (except the interior) but I enjoy driving my car much much more when the interior is clean so I spend time doing that as well. Most of the equipment is a one time purchase and those big purchases (ie polisher) will improve the condition of your car. As far as chemicals go, I buy bulk and high quality products which are generally more concentrated which means you use less. So I probably spend less on chemicals than a Walmart or pep boys shopper __________________ 2010 Camaro TT SS. AGP twin Turbo

06-23-2015, 01:31 PM	#2
JimE Drives: 2013 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: St Louis, MO Posts: 3,087	Most of the people that spend the time and money cleaning their cars, do it on a regular basis (ie: at least once a week) and not just "when it's dirty". And yes, after a few years you will be able to tell the difference. Keeping it clean makes is easier to clean and helps prevent the stains/water marks, etc. that are common on cars that aren't kept clean. No offense meant, but the typical person that just washes a car when it's dirty, also doesn't spend the time to actually get it clean. I don't spend a lot of money on supplies, but I spend money on quality products. There are some useable products at WalMart, but I'd rather spend a little more and get a better product.

06-23-2015, 03:13 PM	#4
Joe M 2012 2SS Drives: 2012 2SS Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Shelby NC Posts: 2,549 View My Garage	It's just a matter of personal preference. I enjoy keeping my car looking it's absolute best. No it's not a show car and will never be, but I get a sense of satisfaction of keeping it as clean and scratch free as I possibly can. I cannot buy products at Wal-Mart that will accomplish this. They don't sell any high lubricity soaps, they do sell a foam gun but it's a piece of junk, they don't sell any high quality microfiber for washing, drying, or wax/sealant removal, but only Chinese that is much more brittle and susceptible to marring the surface. The waxes they sell are all lower end, and will stain trim. But if someone is happy with the results they get with stuff sold at Wal-Mart, it is their car, and as long as they are happy, that's all that matters. Some people enjoy racing their cars, I've never raced mine and never will, just not my thing. If someone else enjoys that, go for it, have fun. As far as lasting longer, that has to do with how well/often the regular maintenance is done. Oil, transmission, filters, brakes, etc., and also how the car is driven. Keeping the exterior/interior surfaces in the best shape you can will have an impact on the resale value as well. But for most detailing enthusiasts, personal pride of having a clean, shiny, swirl free ride is why it's done. Plus, I like it when a complete stranger comes up to me and says, "Your car looks ______" (beautiful, awesome, terrific) or whatever superlative they choose.

06-23-2015, 03:33 PM	#5
Jackpot Drives: 2010 camaro ls Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: NH Posts: 65	[QUOTE=Joe M 2012 2SS;8497506]It's just a matter of personal I cannot buy products at Wal-Mart that will accomplish this. They don't sell any high lubricity soaps, they do sell a foam gun but it's a piece of junk, they don't sell any high quality microfiber for washing, drying, or wax/sealant removal, but only Chinese that is much more brittle and susceptible to marring the surface. The waxes they sell are all lower end, and will stain trim. I disagree the Meguiar's Ultimate line can be found at walmart all base of Detailer line of products, witch do a good job Ultimate wax dose not stain trim.

06-23-2015, 06:15 PM	#9
Joe M 2012 2SS Drives: 2012 2SS Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Shelby NC Posts: 2,549 View My Garage	For the OP, since you live in Wisconsin, if you upgraded to one better product than you currently use, I would make it Collinite 845 wax. I'm sure the winter months are tough up there, and this will provide you with excellent protection for your paint. It's not very expensive either, around $18 a bottle, you just have to warm it up and shake it really well to dissolve all the clumps in it, and put it on thin. It will by far trump any kind of protection that's available at Wal-Mart.

06-23-2015, 06:25 PM	#13
Jackpot Drives: 2010 camaro ls Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: NH Posts: 65	perp is the key to finish and how long a wax will last so if you just washing and applying wax your better off with a wax from walmart that has a cleaner and fillers in the mix.