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View Poll Results: ZL1 or GT500, Which one would you get?
ZL1 5 35.71%
GT500 9 64.29%
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Old 05-23-2012, 06:36 PM   #1807
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Review on Road and Track and comments about GT500 Nurburgring Times from Ford

"When we asked the SVT folks about the GT500's test times around the Nürburgring Nordschleife in Germany, they politely declined to answer the question."

click here

it must be close to the Zl1's times...
They also said feel free to take both the ZL1 and GT500 to the same track and run them. SVTPP is more than confident the GT500 will hold its own.
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Old 05-23-2012, 06:37 PM   #1808
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95 mile 2013 GT500 601rwhp 584 torque. Another pull coming up.

It's up to 613.9 rwhp. I'm having buyers remorse, I want to unload my CTS-V now.
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Old 05-23-2012, 06:43 PM   #1809
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It's up to 613.9 rwhp. I'm having buyers remorse, I want to unload my CTS-V now.
615rwhp is quite impressive. Zr1's typically dyno only 530 to 540rwhp!! I wonder if ford will ever bring back the gt.
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Old 05-23-2012, 06:43 PM   #1810
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It's up to 613.9 rwhp. I'm having buyers remorse, I want to unload my CTS-V now.
Yep, imagine with a few more miles on it what it will do!
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Old 05-23-2012, 06:46 PM   #1811
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The owner said it was pushing 13.4 lbs of boost on the first run.
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Old 05-23-2012, 06:50 PM   #1812
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Looks like they are going head to head with a ZL1.

Same day.

Same dyno.

According to Rick @ Livernois, that particular ZL1 is the modded car that has already been in the 9's. They won't be doing back-to-back dyno runs.
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Old 05-23-2012, 06:50 PM   #1813
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Yep, imagine with a few more miles on it what it will do!
630rwhp?
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Old 05-23-2012, 06:54 PM   #1814
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with this thread only I have a hard time getting it to take me to the last page. Is anyone else having that problem? For example, I click 74 but I end up back on 73. It was like this yesterday too.
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Old 05-23-2012, 06:57 PM   #1815
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with this thread only I have a hard time getting it to take me to the last page. Is anyone else having that problem? For example, I click 74 but I end up back on 73. It was like this yesterday too.
It happens pretty often on this board...
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Old 05-23-2012, 06:58 PM   #1816
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with this thread only I have a hard time getting it to take me to the last page. Is anyone else having that problem? For example, I click 74 but I end up back on 73. It was like this yesterday too.
Thats common with a lot of threads on this site, just ignore it.
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Old 05-23-2012, 07:00 PM   #1817
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Thats common with a lot of threads on this site, just ignore it.
Yup. Its just a glitch of some sort.
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Old 05-23-2012, 07:07 PM   #1818
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If my weekends weren't already booked with my 8 year old son's karting schedule I'd jump on this invitation. Perhaps in Sept/Oct.?
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Old 05-23-2012, 07:09 PM   #1819
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And what does ANY of it have to do with the FACT that both the 2012 ZL1 and 2007-2013 GT500's are mass-produced right on the same assembly lines, intermixed right along with their other more pedestrian brethren?

They are production cars, they don't go to any 3rd-party outfitter, period.
Well howdy, boss '9er.

You obviously missed the erroneous "mass produced cars are not rare" posting...but that's fine. It's difficult to have all the answers, all the time...isn't it?

BTW, thanks for bringing up the "horrendously overpriced '69 ZL1". Here's what I suggest you consider doing: go to the attached website and plug in $61,000 Year 2012 Dollars (the price of a necessarily-equipped 202 mph GT 500) and see what that equates to...

http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc....012&year2=1969

Answer: A Brand New 5/50-warranted ZL1 AND a Base '69 Camaro Coupe!

Horrendous, indeed!

BOSS 429 Cougar, eh? Ever seen this document, before? Feel free to save it...
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Old 05-23-2012, 07:11 PM   #1820
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I apologize to y'all in advance, but I can't allow sloppy/bad information to stand...

And now for your history lesson LOWDOWN:


Ford built 859 Boss 429's in 1969, which included two Boss Cougars. The minimum for NASCAR homologation was indeed 500 for 1969, but Ford built more than that thinking they'd sell them, which was a bad idea because they had a hard time moving them. I should know, I own KK1912.

In 1970, Ford built exactly 500 Boss 429's, enough to meet homologation rules, and not a unit more (due to the stuggles in unloading the previous year's build).

They were assembled at Kar Kraft because the width of the engine required numerous modifications/changes from production in both steering and front aprons that would not have been practical on the moving assembly line.

But I've gotta ask, WHAT THE HELL IS YOUR POINT? Are you too dim to realize that the 1969 ZL1 was HUGELY more expensive than either the Boss 429 or the Charger 500??

You finish your inaccurate blabber with this comment that GM installed the ZL1 engine on the assembly line to cut costs, yet the ZL1 cost almost double the other two cars.

And what does ANY of it have to do with the FACT that both the 2012 ZL1 and 2007-2013 GT500's are mass-produced right on the same assembly lines, intermixed right along with their other more pedestrian brethren?

They are production cars, they don't go to any 3rd-party outfitter, period.
My dream is to locate one of the two, still unaccounted for Cougars. Forget Aston Martin's, Shelby's, Boss Mustangs and ZL1's.
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