Z/28 Upgrade Packages Available for Standard Camaros This Summer

[Optimus Prime]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

You're absolutely right. They WILL effect airflow...positively. It blows my mind a little bit to still read commentary alluding to the GM engineers not being as good as the aftermarket folks. I love the aftermarket companies, especially the sponsors of this site...but have any of them designed and built anything comparable to SS/1LE on the track? A ZL1? A Z/28?...and warranted it for 5 years?

Keep in mind, the intentions of the performance engineers at Chevy isn't to squeeze every last HP out and call it a day....it's to get a lot of power without negatively effecting the durability, reliability, or character of the cars.

And I'd wager that the GM CAI WILL outperform several of the aftermarket offerings...across the entire power band...fwiw.

I spent a good deal of time talking with the engineers from Team Camaro this weekend - these parts are no joke.

I am planning to put the helical differential gears, and brake ducts onto my 1LE.

First of all, awesome statements about the engineers at GM. I know they know FAR more than I do about these cars, and I'd even bet, far more than most, if not all, of the people on this forum. I love car nuts that think they know so much better than the people who design and engineer them.

In regard to your last sentence, I thought the 2014 1LE's already had the brake ducts built in. Someone pointed it out in my car once and I remember clearly seeing it...

[PYROLYSIS]

Originally Posted by Optimus Prime

First of all, awesome statements about the engineers at GM. I know they know FAR more than I do about these cars, and I'd even bet, far more than most, if not all, of the people on this forum. I love car nuts that think they know so much better than the people who design and engineer them.

In regard to your last sentence, I thought the 2014 1LE's already had the brake ducts built in. Someone pointed it out in my car once and I remember clearly seeing it...

My understanding is that it's just a little extra lip on the wheel well that helps direct air towards the general area of the brakes. The brake ducts should be a substantial improvement.

[Riddim21]

With the Z28 Tri y exhaust manifolds I can recieved a good amount of performance with no tune?
But if I want a long tube header I have to get a tune for peak performance? What would be the pros and cons?

Also what is the adapter $150 adapter kit?

[ChrisBlair]

Originally Posted by Riddim21

With the Z28 Tri y exhaust manifolds I can recieved a good amount of performance with no tune?
But if I want a long tube header I have to get a tune for peak performance? What would be the pros and cons?

Also what is the adapter $150 adapter kit?

Well, the adapter is probably a glorified tube that allows the larger z/28 exhaust to mate up to the SS exhaust

[1LE 2NV]

Wow all these mods and no removable front licence plate holder

[AGM 1LE]

Wonder how much the rear end is. Or the diff cooling, probably the only thing I'd consider getting

[TxBandit911]

Originally Posted by crc91

And thats why gm can charge more for performance parts compared to a aftermarket product that may have better gains. Because with their products your warranty stays and you gain. Their will always be people that want oem parts with a warranty and there will always be people who will say to hell with it and try to squeeze every drop of hp and tq out the car. No one is right and no one is wrong its basically the owners choice. Like many things it goes back to,your car your decision.I personally will be doing business with the people that made my car as much as i can at least until the warranty is up or i can put a old truck in the garage or something.

Well, on some things that provide a warranty, I can see it. However, if you break your SS on a track, GM most likely will not warranty it anyway. Also, the parts that DO void your warranty that are sold by GM and installed at the dealer (yes, some of them do) are still typically less performance for the dollar than a reputable aftermarket company, in that case, I would go elsewhere, better parts to be had.

I remember years ago, GM Performance parts sold a set of CNC ported LS6 heads....They had a reputation to break and didn't flow all that well for the cost. There were way better heads out there elsewhere. And yes, at the time, even the GM heads voided the warranty...

[Fast92RS]

Is the z28 cat back exhaust different from the Zl1 exhaust?

[markgws6]

Originally Posted by TPAJETSKI

I tend to agree with you in part. However, I think if making a car look just like a z/28 was as easy as ordering some appearance parts it would dilute the exclusivity. Especially among the average motorist that doesn't know a real from a fake. It's not necessarily about reducing the actual value of the car as much as not pissing off the guy that spent 75K on a car to see someone with a 1LS with 5K worth of Z/28 appearance bits cruising down the road.

I doubt anyone would mistake a 1LS with a Z/28 body kit for the real thing. Unless they are maybe deaf... But I agree with GM for keeping the new Z/28 exclusive. I just want a few of the go fast parts for my 1LE. Sorta like the 1LE borrowed some from the ZL1.

[crc91]

i just need a set of recaros those things should come stock!

[Camaro Dude]

Originally Posted by crc91

i just need a set of recaros those things should come stock!

They should, except that unfortunately, the average American's ass is fat.

Fly Air France economy, and then practically any American carrier, and you will see what I mean on seat size and average ass size versus the two countries, as two varying extremes.

But yeah, the Recaros rock!

[Airmaster]

Prices are probably going to be sky high....

[Airmaster]

Originally Posted by Camaro Dude

They should, except that unfortunately, the average American's ass is fat.

Fly Air France economy, and then practically any American carrier, and you will see what I mean on seat size and average ass size versus the two countries, as two varying extremes.

But yeah, the Recaros rock!

Hate to burst your bubble on that comparison, but airlines don't choose seats on that basis lol. It's more of a manufacturer thing (of which Recaro is one of those manufacturer's haha) and particular seat layouts. Future airplanes will all come down to less than 20 inch width, the more people they can get in the more profit per gallon of fuel. Airplanes from the same airline can be found with completely varying seat widths mainly due to the multiple aircraft types. In fact Airbus planes (European) have recently had slightly larger seat widths than Boeing planes (US made).

Sorry for the rant, this just all reminds me on how much space we continually lose as passengers, it sucks!

I would love those Recaros though..... at a good price! My butt should fit.

[rebelyell22]

I bet the LS7 exhaust is going to be $$$$$$$$$$$