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1KillerSS · 07-24-2016, 03:03 PM

Compress it in a zip file, then upload it in advanced tab under attachments.

93TAWicked1 · 07-24-2016, 03:06 PM

Done!

93TAWicked1 · 08-12-2017, 01:16 PM

just an update, I believe this has been resolved. The supercharger lid had a number of bolts lose with oil filing one bolt hole and some black on the gasket below. torqued them all to spec and haven't had a code driving it all week!

93TAWicked1 · 08-12-2017, 01:51 PM

Lol RIGHT after I post that I go for a drive and the codes come back!

Hi Noon · 11-06-2017, 03:13 AM

I am getting the same exact situation. Did you get to the bottom of it ?
thanks - Patrick

Hi Noon · 11-06-2017, 06:45 AM

My list of issues to check:

1 - bad/dirty MAF
2 - SC seal,loose bolts
3- low fuel pressure
4- bad fuel

When it all started I could hear the engine ping at part throttle, pinging quietens some when boost starts. It was after refuelling some. Then the CEL came on about 2 hours later, possibly LT trims maxed out. So I though small air leak. All connections to/from the SC are OK. I do have the loose bolts issue, though some were tight and I do have oil seepage all around the lid.

so:

Wrt (1): clean MAF
(2): remove Sc lid, clean mating surfaces, new seal
(3) to check fuel pressure
(4) put new fuel in

I will let you know how it goes.

JANNETTYRACING · 11-06-2017, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 93TAWicked1

Lol RIGHT after I post that I go for a drive and the codes come back!

What tune are you running with this combo?

93TAWicked1 · 11-09-2017, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hi Noon

I am getting the same exact situation. Did you get to the bottom of it ?
thanks - Patrick

Sorry Patrick, I didn't see this question until now. Yes after I did all this stuff it changed. Went from being all over the place to only crazy at idle and deciel...ended up being the actuator. Changed that and it is all good. WOW all the mods and no vacuum leak really woke up the car!

93TAWicked1 · 11-09-2017, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

What tune are you running with this combo?

Lsxtuning.com. now that it's running right I'm going to take it in to Wongs performance to dyno tune.

Hi Noon · 05-01-2018, 04:15 PM

Allright sorry long time with no feedback, car was in winter storage, so today I actually opened the SC lid and was shocked at the amount of junk in there, I mean black crud and burned oil, it seemed to be the worst deposits at the back where the entrance to the rotors is, so I cleaned everything, put a new gasket in and retorqued the bolts. The old gasket did look flimsy, very thin, I wonder if Edelbrock makes them too thin to actually seal well. Cleared the code with the vcm scanner, and took the opportunity to install a cheap boost gauge I had laying around. Cleaned the SC well from previous oil seepage at the gasket area so I can see whether it leaks again.

Going for a drive tomorrow to see if the code comes back and get the engine heat cycled so I can check and if needed retorque the SC lid bolts. Will report here the outcome.

A few people have reported failure of the bypass valve actuator being the cause of this, I suppose I will know soon enough if I have this issue after all. Engine idling, no noticeable hissing or something from the actuator itself, well the typical LS sewing maching sound of the engine was louder than any other sound in the engine bay !

93TAWicked1 · 05-02-2018, 07:42 AM

It's crazy I had loose lid bolts, loose manifold bolts and finally the actuator. I guess if you depress them manually the break easily. I bought it with SC installed so who knows. Frustrating but after all that it is an impressive car

Hi Noon · 06-19-2018, 08:17 AM

Thanks TA, well I did about 2000 miles over the last few weeks, and no code, actually seat of the pants wise the car seems to pull stronger, so I'm a happy camper

I'm regularly checking the SC lid bolts and with the new gasket I did have to torque them back a bit after a few heat cycles, no oil seepage to report, i guess that was it, bypass valve actuator seems Ok for now.
cheers

sscamaro · 06-19-2018, 02:10 PM

My buddy and I installed the E-Force on my SS in Sept. of 2010. I already had LT headers on it. Used the Edelbrock tune till I got a dyno tune. At that time it was running out of fuel at 6500 rpm. In spring of 2011 I installed the ZL1 fuel pump and installed 72lb injectors and had it retuned. It has worked for 7 years and 47k miles with no problems. Check mods below.

Do you have a catch can? When my intake was removed, there was a lot of oil in it. So I installed a catch can after installing the S/C.

93TAWicked1 · 06-19-2018, 11:56 PM

Yeah I've heard good things about the reliability of this setup. I have a mighty mouse can I need to install. Then I may do a bo white tb and take it in for final dyno tuning. After fixting actuator and tuning with lsx tuning all my ltrims stay at zero.

07-24-2016, 03:03 PM	#15
1KillerSS Too much is never enough! Drives: AGP TT SS [COTW] 4/20/15 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 4,149 View My Garage	Compress it in a zip file, then upload it in advanced tab under attachments. __________________ AGP TT kit, 54/57 Forged rotating assembly, Custom grind cam... Dual nozzle meth, ID850's, Livernois dual fuel pumps, ECS BAP, 25% UDP, 3 inch Magnaflow catback with X pipe, Mantic 9000 clutch, DSS 1000hp axles, DSS aluminum driveshaft, ZL1 rear end, solid subframe bushings, HE differential offset bushings, BMR Trailing arm, BMR toe rods, Lingenfelter LNC-2000,SJM Line Lock. 747 whp 714wtq *Build thread* http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...55#post8107855

08-12-2017, 01:16 PM	#17
93TAWicked1 Drives: Camaro Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Portland Posts: 208	just an update, I believe this has been resolved. The supercharger lid had a number of bolts lose with oil filing one bolt hole and some black on the gasket below. torqued them all to spec and haven't had a code driving it all week! __________________ 2011 IOM RS/2SS. Manual, Eforce, Fuel mods, 3.25 pulley, Stainless Power headers, Borla exhaust, MGW shifter, Z28 suspension with stock front sway, ZL1 Brakes, ZL1 body kit and hood, rotofab

08-12-2017, 01:51 PM	#18
93TAWicked1 Drives: Camaro Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Portland Posts: 208	Lol RIGHT after I post that I go for a drive and the codes come back! __________________ 2011 IOM RS/2SS. Manual, Eforce, Fuel mods, 3.25 pulley, Stainless Power headers, Borla exhaust, MGW shifter, Z28 suspension with stock front sway, ZL1 Brakes, ZL1 body kit and hood, rotofab

11-06-2017, 03:13 AM	#19
Hi Noon Drives: Camaro 2010 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Anywhere Posts: 48	Any updates ? I am getting the same exact situation. Did you get to the bottom of it ? thanks - Patrick

05-02-2018, 07:42 AM	#25
93TAWicked1 Drives: Camaro Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Portland Posts: 208	It's crazy I had loose lid bolts, loose manifold bolts and finally the actuator. I guess if you depress them manually the break easily. I bought it with SC installed so who knows. Frustrating but after all that it is an impressive car __________________ 2011 IOM RS/2SS. Manual, Eforce, Fuel mods, 3.25 pulley, Stainless Power headers, Borla exhaust, MGW shifter, Z28 suspension with stock front sway, ZL1 Brakes, ZL1 body kit and hood, rotofab

11-06-2017, 06:45 AM	#20
Hi Noon Drives: Camaro 2010 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Anywhere Posts: 48	My list of issues to check: 1 - bad/dirty MAF 2 - SC seal,loose bolts 3- low fuel pressure 4- bad fuel When it all started I could hear the engine ping at part throttle, pinging quietens some when boost starts. It was after refuelling some. Then the CEL came on about 2 hours later, possibly LT trims maxed out. So I though small air leak. All connections to/from the SC are OK. I do have the loose bolts issue, though some were tight and I do have oil seepage all around the lid. so: Wrt (1): clean MAF (2): remove Sc lid, clean mating surfaces, new seal (3) to check fuel pressure (4) put new fuel in I will let you know how it goes.

05-01-2018, 04:15 PM	#24
Hi Noon Drives: Camaro 2010 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Anywhere Posts: 48	Allright sorry long time with no feedback, car was in winter storage, so today I actually opened the SC lid and was shocked at the amount of junk in there, I mean black crud and burned oil, it seemed to be the worst deposits at the back where the entrance to the rotors is, so I cleaned everything, put a new gasket in and retorqued the bolts. The old gasket did look flimsy, very thin, I wonder if Edelbrock makes them too thin to actually seal well. Cleared the code with the vcm scanner, and took the opportunity to install a cheap boost gauge I had laying around. Cleaned the SC well from previous oil seepage at the gasket area so I can see whether it leaks again. Going for a drive tomorrow to see if the code comes back and get the engine heat cycled so I can check and if needed retorque the SC lid bolts. Will report here the outcome. A few people have reported failure of the bypass valve actuator being the cause of this, I suppose I will know soon enough if I have this issue after all. Engine idling, no noticeable hissing or something from the actuator itself, well the typical LS sewing maching sound of the engine was louder than any other sound in the engine bay !

06-19-2018, 08:17 AM	#26
Hi Noon Drives: Camaro 2010 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Anywhere Posts: 48	Thanks TA, well I did about 2000 miles over the last few weeks, and no code, actually seat of the pants wise the car seems to pull stronger, so I'm a happy camper I'm regularly checking the SC lid bolts and with the new gasket I did have to torque them back a bit after a few heat cycles, no oil seepage to report, i guess that was it, bypass valve actuator seems Ok for now. cheers

06-19-2018, 02:10 PM	#27
sscamaro Drives: 2010 2SS, 2017 Silverado LTZ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Denver,PA Posts: 3,195 View My Garage	My buddy and I installed the E-Force on my SS in Sept. of 2010. I already had LT headers on it. Used the Edelbrock tune till I got a dyno tune. At that time it was running out of fuel at 6500 rpm. In spring of 2011 I installed the ZL1 fuel pump and installed 72lb injectors and had it retuned. It has worked for 7 years and 47k miles with no problems. Check mods below. Do you have a catch can? When my intake was removed, there was a lot of oil in it. So I installed a catch can after installing the S/C. __________________ 2010 2SS/RS Victory Red, MN6, 1-7/8 Kooks LT Headers, SLP Axle Back, Edelbrock E-Force S/C, ZL1 Fuel Pump, 72# Injectors, JRE fuel rail upgrade, Roto-Fab CAI, Elite Catch Can, Billet Hurst Shifter, DSS 1000HP axles, Spohn Trailing Arms, Toe Links, Lower Control Arms. Chrome American Racing Torq-Thrust wheels. 546/rwhp & 522/rwtq & 10.9# boost Tune by Jeremy Formato.

06-19-2018, 11:56 PM	#28
93TAWicked1 Drives: Camaro Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Portland Posts: 208	Yeah I've heard good things about the reliability of this setup. I have a mighty mouse can I need to install. Then I may do a bo white tb and take it in for final dyno tuning. After fixting actuator and tuning with lsx tuning all my ltrims stay at zero. __________________ 2011 IOM RS/2SS. Manual, Eforce, Fuel mods, 3.25 pulley, Stainless Power headers, Borla exhaust, MGW shifter, Z28 suspension with stock front sway, ZL1 Brakes, ZL1 body kit and hood, rotofab