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Old 10-29-2019, 08:36 AM   #1
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Difference between CAIís?

Is there really much of a difference in performance/sound between K&N, CAI inc, etc..? I bought the K&N 69 series Typhoon Intake and quickly regretting it seeing everyone prefers CAI inc.
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Old 10-29-2019, 09:23 AM   #2
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Biggest difference is going to be how well each one actually gets you cold air. Most K&N kits let in a lot of hot air.

Best way is to monitor your IAT temps and see what the intake temperatures are. The cooler the better.
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Old 10-29-2019, 08:45 PM   #3
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Not sure if you sought yet, but somebody did a comprehensive test of the different brand CAI’s (The posting has a nice Excel spreadsheet you can open to see the results ). The CAI brand definitely showed the most average horsepower and torque gain, along with maximum gains. That being said, I bought the Roto fab kit and noticed a difference between that and stock intake.Happy shopping!
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Old 10-30-2019, 05:54 PM   #4
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Get an intake scoop (Phastek, JRE, Rotofab all have them off the top of my head). Instead of needing the intake to be sealed, just make it so any intake on the car breathes ambient air. EZ.


(I was always surprised the intakes weren't tested with an intake scoop in another test.)
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Old 10-31-2019, 08:21 PM   #5
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I'd love to see a test done with a stock intake and scoop.

There was a fella on here that built a ram air slash scoop and recorded some pretty good spreadsheet numbers IIRC. Think he was talking about selling them too. Banned for it maybe?
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Old 10-31-2019, 09:19 PM   #6
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The Vararam gave a noticeable performance gain when I had one installed.
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Old 11-25-2019, 04:59 PM   #7
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Biggest difference is going to be how well each one actually gets you cold air. Most K&N kits let in a lot of hot air.

Best way is to monitor your IAT temps and see what the intake temperatures are. The cooler the better.
well since the V6 line doesn't pull timing based on IAT, its not a big factor.


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Not sure if you sought yet, but somebody did a comprehensive test of the different brand CAIís (The posting has a nice Excel spreadsheet you can open to see the results ). The CAI brand definitely showed the most average horsepower and torque gain, along with maximum gains.
That test was thrown out the window because there were so many variables and is pretty much just an advertising thread. There's VERY little difference between intakes when it comes to the filter. You can heat shield the filter all you want, but that's not the issue. Its the heat transfer to the intake tube/MAF that's robbing you of HP. The quicker you cool that tube down ( with a race scoop ), the quicker you stop pulling IAT temperatures.

VARARAM intake and New Era over the radiator are the best if you are not going to use a race scoop ( V8 Guys )


In most of the pictures I see of air intakes, the intake tube is poorly designed and either sits right on the radiator heater hose and that temperature transfers to the MAF or is within a 1/2 inch of the MAF. Not as big as a factor in the V6 line since their intake air temperature table is zero'd out and doesn't pull timing, but the V8 line it does factor in. Just because the VARARAM doesnt dyno the best, doesnt me its not the best. If you understand how it works, you'll understand why you want it.

Pretty in the engine bay doesnt make you faster. True cold air does.
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Old 11-25-2019, 05:14 PM   #8
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Once I added the ADM scoop, even with my K&N Blackhawk intake, the IAT temps stay fairly close to outside ambient temp. The scoop is a big plus!
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Old 11-25-2019, 05:22 PM   #9
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Get an intake scoop (Phastek, JRE, Rotofab all have them off the top of my head). Instead of needing the intake to be sealed, just make it so any intake on the car breathes ambient air. EZ.


(I was always surprised the intakes weren't tested with an intake scoop in another test.)
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Exactly what I did. And I know the air is getting to the filter because there are way more bugs to remove than w/o the scoop.
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Old 11-26-2019, 04:48 PM   #10
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The Vararam gave a noticeable performance gain when I had one installed.
Only fits 2010-2011 V6, not LFX motors
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Old 06-28-2022, 04:35 PM   #11
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I'd love to see a test done with a stock intake and scoop.

There was a fella on here that built a ram air slash scoop and recorded some pretty good spreadsheet numbers IIRC. Think he was talking about selling them too. Banned for it maybe?
i have the scoop installed on my 2013 question what would be the downside to cutting the bottom out of my stock air box
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Old 07-09-2022, 08:54 PM   #12
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Honestly I haven't been in there to look but as long as it's not pulling any air from the engine compartment I don't see any problems. I'm running a washable high filtration dry panel filter already and want to add the scoop along with a Jacfab Laminator FX to increase intake flow.
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