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Old 04-21-2018, 07:08 AM   #15
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Hating for obscure reason is waste of energy for me.

What is being stuck in the past? Liking the 2016-2018 over the 2019?

Anyway.

As I said. I do like the 2019. More and more


Edit: I agree that hating the 2019 is a waste of energy.
After rereading what a wrote I see your point. It’s more that glory day people annoy me. The best is still ahead. There are those that can’t move past 10-13 model year
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Old 04-21-2018, 07:14 AM   #16
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After rereading what a wrote I see your point. It’s more that glory day people annoy me. The best is still ahead. There are those that can’t move past 10-13 model year
I can understand.

As A daily driver I’d prefer a 2019 over a 1978 for sure.

But I would like to own a 1969 for the beautiful Sunday afternoon.
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Old 04-21-2018, 07:15 AM   #17
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@Koldunic. Reread what you quoted. The wasted hate energy here is coming from those stuck in the past
Or maybe you paint with too broad a brush, because a lot of us just don’t like it!

I’m 46 and have had 16 vehicles myself (that’s me alone, not including the wife’s 8-9 or my sons’ vehicles I bought them), so I embrace change.... but not for sake of change! I want improved styling, mechanics, features, etc. I love the 6th gen over the previous gen. I was very close to buying a used 5th gen to mod and tinker (my Camaro is a toy, not a DD), then I saw my first 6th gen NGM up close in person and started reading about it. So I bought a new 17 2SS with magride, NPP, etc. Until I see some nice mods for the cosmetics of the refresh, I’ll keep my 17/A8 at least til we see the 7th gen.

To me it’s not as anywhere near as pleasing to the eye from the front or back as my ‘17 (I’m indifferent on the hood). And I wanted to like it, because I want the A10.
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Old 04-21-2018, 07:24 AM   #18
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I didn't know Dodge came out with the new Charger already
Now that's funny ,New and Dodge in the same sentence.
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Old 04-21-2018, 07:31 AM   #19
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I think the Camaro people done a better job on the 2019 Camaro refresh then the Corvette people did on the front on the 2019 ZR1 . I can't wait to see the 2019 1LE in person myself .
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Old 04-21-2018, 07:47 AM   #20
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No thanks. I know people keep saying that it grows on them. I'm just the opposite. The more I see it the more I hate it. In all honesty I'd buy a charger first.
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Old 04-21-2018, 09:02 AM   #21
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No thanks. I know people keep saying that it grows on them. I'm just the opposite. The more I see it the more I hate it. In all honesty I'd buy a charger first.
You would willingly buy a vehicle that sets itself on fire? Sounds like natural selection.

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Old 04-21-2018, 09:17 AM   #22
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Old 04-21-2018, 09:21 AM   #23
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Or maybe you paint with too broad a brush, because a lot of us just don’t like it!

I’m 46 and have had 16 vehicles myself (that’s me alone, not including the wife’s 8-9 or my sons’ vehicles I bought them), so I embrace change.... but not for sake of change! I want improved styling, mechanics, features, etc. I love the 6th gen over the previous gen. I was very close to buying a used 5th gen to mod and tinker (my Camaro is a toy, not a DD), then I saw my first 6th gen NGM up close in person and started reading about it. So I bought a new 17 2SS with magride, NPP, etc. Until I see some nice mods for the cosmetics of the refresh, I’ll keep my 17/A8 at least til we see the 7th gen.

To me it’s not as anywhere near as pleasing to the eye from the front or back as my ‘17 (I’m indifferent on the hood). And I wanted to like it, because I want the A10.
Well said. Not enough visual change for us Gen 6er's to buy a 2019. I do however like the front collision avoidance system on the 2019. Wonder if they will incorporate adaptive cruise control which I also really like on the wife's car.
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Old 04-21-2018, 09:35 AM   #24
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Well said. Not enough visual change for us Gen 6er's to buy a 2019. I do however like the front collision avoidance system on the 2019. Wonder if they will incorporate adaptive cruise control which I also really like on the wife's car.
I would be careful not to read too much into this "collision avoidance"....Not sure what the '18s have in it now, but the '19s look like they are getting "FCA"...Forward Collision Alert....my experience is that FCA is only a beeper warning that you can set to near or far distances if you are coming up behind another vehicle that has already been detected....To me, FCA is a far cry from any type of real collision avoidance...it is a simple alert...

You are correct I believe that only a full Adaptive Cruise Control offers any type of automatic braking or collision avoidance...
A full ACC system uses FCA and automatic breaking and automatic acceleration, but FCA by itself is only an Alert.

From what I can tell, Camaro does not yet have full ACC, but they are creeping up on it. Good luck.
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Old 04-21-2018, 12:54 PM   #25
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Or maybe you paint with too broad a brush, because a lot of us just don’t like it!

I’m 46 and have had 16 vehicles myself (that’s me alone, not including the wife’s 8-9 or my sons’ vehicles I bought them), so I embrace change.... but not for sake of change! I want improved styling, mechanics, features, etc. I love the 6th gen over the previous gen. I was very close to buying a used 5th gen to mod and tinker (my Camaro is a toy, not a DD), then I saw my first 6th gen NGM up close in person and started reading about it. So I bought a new 17 2SS with magride, NPP, etc. Until I see some nice mods for the cosmetics of the refresh, I’ll keep my 17/A8 at least til we see the 7th gen.

To me it’s not as anywhere near as pleasing to the eye from the front or back as my ‘17 (I’m indifferent on the hood). And I wanted to like it, because I want the A10.
I clearly could have expressed it better. I was thinking of a guy that hates anything older than 1975. Smh

I had a similar reaction when I saw the 2SS in NGM with Kalahari. Loved it immediately and recognized that optioned with magride and NPP, it was superior to my 13 ZL1.

I’ve looked into a 2SS 1LE but don’t see that can happening until gen7. They won’t deal on the new car and the hit on my 16 is too large. As for the 19s look, I like it but as mentioned, I typically do like new including the Lexus.

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Old 04-21-2018, 07:42 PM   #26
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This just makes me want the Zl1 even more. Unless a great 7th gen appears!
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Old 04-21-2018, 10:47 PM   #27
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At what point does the sexy Camaro show up in that video? The car shown has the same disgusting front as all the other 2019 SS refresh pics/videos.

It wouldn't be so bad if there were more color choices. Then I could at least drive it from the dealer at delivery straight to a body shop to have GMs mistakes fixed. But I'm not repainting a whole damn car.

I'll just wait for the 7th gen and hope for better styling and more color choices. I was ready to buy a 2019 until it was unveiled. Hopefully there's are better changes in the next few years. At least I'll have even more $$$ saved up by then.
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