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ShnOmac · 02-10-2012, 02:30 PM

A couple of more questions....

1- I don't see the 3.73's listed??? Is that a wish or did they mention it somewhere?

2- Why not "square" up the corners and have 305's all the way around from the factory?

LOWDOWN · 02-10-2012, 02:36 PM

There's no "wrong" with "wishes", ShnO...none at all.

* Does a 1LE equate itself well, price-wise and feature-wise, in the Camaro line-up AND the overall Marketplace? Absolutely YES.
* Does it give a vast SS/Camaro owner body "something" to move up to, THIS generation? YES.
* Is it "perfect" for us all? NO...but then, what is?!
* Could (italix'd) it lead to "something else"? On paper, YES. In reality? Tick...Tick...Tick...

LOWDOWN · 02-10-2012, 02:43 PM

1) 3.73s must go with the "Close Ratio 6-speed", which I read as MG9... Otherwise, with a 2.66 1st gear and 3.45s, you'd get speeding tickets (and clutch wear) in 1st gear...

2) Wheels/tires from the ZL1 are "good to go". Anything else isn't...time! monie$! The ZL1 rubber would only require a slight redo of the electronics, to compensate for less front-end/overall Weight. Still required, but NOT as complicated as resized tires too. Equates to a quicker-to-Market deal. Tick...Tick...Tick...

ShnOmac · 02-10-2012, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

1) 3.73s must go with the "Close Ratio 6-speed", which I read as MG9... Otherwise, with a 2.66 1st gear and 3.45s, you'd get speeding tickets (and clutch wear) in 1st gear...

2) Wheels/tires from the ZL1 are "good to go". Anything else isn't...time! monie$! The ZL1 rubber would only require a slight redo of the electronics, to compensate for less front-end/overall Weight. Still required, but NOT as complicated as resized tires too. Equates to a quicker-to-Market deal. Tick...Tick...Tick...

Got it!

Now the internal debate begins..... 1LE or Z/28?????

LOWDOWN · 02-10-2012, 03:30 PM

TWO not-so-small IFs:

1) IF it runs laps as quickly as a BOSS LS...

AND

2) IF "something else" is NOT in the planning stages...

THEN...call it whatever they want.

IF it will not equal the BEST BOSS, do NOT bastardize OUR name...

If it will rustle the BOSS LS, they could call it a Berlinetta for all I care...I'll still want one!

FenwickHockey65 · 02-10-2012, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JusticePete

This can't be right. If Peter built them, they would be lowered.

Regards,
#2.99

Eh?

OldScoolCamaro · 02-10-2012, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

MuthaTRUCKER...

Somebody mention K-Whopper?

My all-time favorite heavy hauler? Autocar...Mr. Muscle!

...back in my "youth" the first big rig's I worked on were Diamond Reo gas jobs...

... then the last one was the GMC General before I switched career's, ...Convoy.....Convoy....... <remember the Big Rig, CB, etc..pop area?)

JusticePete · 02-10-2012, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Eh?

Needs lowering.

FenwickHockey65 · 02-10-2012, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JusticePete

Needs lowering.

Heh. There's a switch to lower the front end.

Number 3 · 02-10-2012, 06:37 PM

Surrendered my Michigan drivers license yesterday. :(

Apparently I am now an official tax paying and paying and paying resident of Illinois.

ShnOmac · 02-10-2012, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Number 3

Surrendered my Michigan drivers license yesterday. :(

Apparently I am now an official tax paying and paying and paying resident of Illinois.

Taxes that bad out in Illinois?

JusticePete · 02-10-2012, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Number 3

Surrendered my Michigan drivers license yesterday. :(

Apparently I am now an official tax paying and paying and paying resident of Illinois.

I still have mine. Sh....

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShnOmac

Taxes that bad out in Illinois?

They don't use forms in Illinois. They pass out jars of gasoline.

LOWDOWN · 02-10-2012, 07:51 PM

Number 3, did you live in the Tri-County Metro area? I have a buddy who moved 10 miles further than his former (private road) Ortonville place...taxes still plunged by HALF for equal assessment!

How's Tri-County compare to Chi-Town?

Number 3 · 02-10-2012, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShnOmac

Taxes that bad out in Illinois?

Yep!

Property taxes................double

State income tax Michigan 4.2%, Illinois 5%

State sales tax Michigan 6%, Illinois 7.25%

Local sales tax Michigan 0, Illinois up to 1% in so I'm told for some communities

Community car sticker Michigan 0, Illinois $30, at least in my city

Lots of extra fees

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

Number 3, did you live in the Tri-County Metro area? I have a buddy who moved 10 miles further than his former (private road) Ortonville place...taxes still plunged by HALF for equal assessment!

How's Tri-County compare to Chi-Town?

I lived in Oakland County. Our property taxes were pretty reasonable.

02-10-2012, 06:37 PM	#8088
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02-10-2012, 02:30 PM	#8079
ShnOmac Drives: 2006 Silverado SS, 2009 G8 GT Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: PNW Posts: 13,313	A couple of more questions.... 1- I don't see the 3.73's listed??? Is that a wish or did they mention it somewhere? 2- Why not "square" up the corners and have 305's all the way around from the factory?

02-10-2012, 02:36 PM	#8080
LOWDOWN Downright Upright Drives: Daily Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Cruisin'... Posts: 4,145	There's no "wrong" with "wishes", ShnO...none at all. * Does a 1LE equate itself well, price-wise and feature-wise, in the Camaro line-up AND the overall Marketplace? Absolutely YES. * Does it give a vast SS/Camaro owner body "something" to move up to, THIS generation? YES. * Is it "perfect" for us all? NO...but then, what is?! * Could (italix'd) it lead to "something else"? On paper, YES. In reality? Tick...Tick...Tick...

02-10-2012, 02:43 PM	#8081
LOWDOWN Downright Upright Drives: Daily Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Cruisin'... Posts: 4,145	1) 3.73s must go with the "Close Ratio 6-speed", which I read as MG9... Otherwise, with a 2.66 1st gear and 3.45s, you'd get speeding tickets (and clutch wear) in 1st gear... 2) Wheels/tires from the ZL1 are "good to go". Anything else isn't...time! monie$! The ZL1 rubber would only require a slight redo of the electronics, to compensate for less front-end/overall Weight. Still required, but NOT as complicated as resized tires too. Equates to a quicker-to-Market deal. Tick...Tick...Tick...

02-10-2012, 03:30 PM	#8083
LOWDOWN Downright Upright Drives: Daily Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Cruisin'... Posts: 4,145	TWO not-so-small IFs: 1) IF it runs laps as quickly as a *BOSS LS... AND* 2) IF "something else" is NOT in the planning stages... *THEN...call it whatever they want. IF it will not equal the BEST BOSS, do NOT* bastardize *OUR* name... If it will rustle the BOSS LS, they could call it a Berlinetta for all I care...I'll still want one!

02-10-2012, 07:51 PM	#8091
LOWDOWN Downright Upright Drives: Daily Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Cruisin'... Posts: 4,145	Number 3, did you live in the Tri-County Metro area? I have a buddy who moved 10 miles further than his former (private road) Ortonville place...taxes still plunged by HALF for equal assessment! How's Tri-County compare to Chi-Town?