[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by shaffe

We are just going to go around and around in circles lol. I'll remain skeptical until we see the numbers. I'll be first to admit when I am wrong if I am wrong and i'll happily be wrong.

So for it to outperform the Z06 in every way.

0-60 less than 2.95
1/4 mile less than 10.95
Top Speed of over 205MPH

If that really is the baseline for a Z51 god only knows what the high performance variants will do.

What is the "official" top speed of the C7 Z06? Because I doubt it is over 205 officially. I doubt it is over 200 officially.

And where did the Z06 do a 10.95. Last I checked GM claimed it would do that but it could only manage low 11s when tested. I think 11.1 was the fastest it ran.

And if I'm correct, the best 0-60 it did in testing was 3.3 or 3.4. Not a 2.95.

If all this is correct then the C8 Z51 would have to beat 3 seconds 0-60, hit 11 flat in the quarter, and do about 200 MPH top speed. Considering that the C7 Stingray top speed was 187 MPH the question is whether or not the C8 with more HP, less weight, better trans and tuning, better gearing, and a better design can add 13 MPH to the outgoing Stingray's top speed and either match the C7 Z06 or beat it. That, I will admit, might be a tall order. I think it will be close. Like a 195 MPH top speed. Which isn't anything to scoff at since the ZL1 official top speed is 198. So that might be the one area where it falls short. I think the rest is a wrap.

[Baldilocks01SS]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

What is the "official" top speed of the C7 Z06? Because I doubt it is over 205 officially. I doubt it is over 200 officially.

And where did the Z06 do a 10.95. Last I checked GM claimed it would do that but it could only manage low 11s when tested. I think 11.1 was the fastest it ran.

And if I'm correct, the best 0-60 it did in testing was 3.3 or 3.4. Not a 2.95.

If all this is correct then the C8 Z51 would have to beat 3 seconds 0-60, hit 11 flat in the quarter, and do about 200 MPH top speed. Considering that the C7 Stingray top speed was 187 MPH the question is whether or not the C8 with more HP, less weight, better trans and tuning, better gearing, and a better design can add 13 MPH to the outgoing Stingray's top speed and either match the C7 Z06 or beat it. That, I will admit, might be a tall order. I think it will be close. Like a 195 MPH top speed. Which isn't anything to scoff at since the ZL1 official top speed is 198. So that might be the one area where it falls short. I think the rest is a wrap.

Pretty sure the C8 is going to come in slightly heavier than the C7.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

What is the "official" top speed of the C7 Z06? Because I doubt it is over 205 officially. I doubt it is over 200 officially.

And where did the Z06 do a 10.95. Last I checked GM claimed it would do that but it could only manage low 11s when tested. I think 11.1 was the fastest it ran.

And if I'm correct, the best 0-60 it did in testing was 3.3 or 3.4. Not a 2.95.

If all this is correct then the C8 Z51 would have to beat 3 seconds 0-60, hit 11 flat in the quarter, and do about 200 MPH top speed. Considering that the C7 Stingray top speed was 187 MPH the question is whether or not the C8 with more HP, less weight, better trans and tuning, better gearing, and a better design can add 13 MPH to the outgoing Stingray's top speed and either match the C7 Z06 or beat it. That, I will admit, might be a tall order. I think it will be close. Like a 195 MPH top speed. Which isn't anything to scoff at since the ZL1 official top speed is 198. So that might be the one area where it falls short. I think the rest is a wrap.

Fastest laps lists the C7 Z06 as follows

0 - 60 mph 3.0 s
1/4 mile 11.1 s @ 127.4 mph
Top speed 315 kph (196 mph)

https://fastestlaps.com/models/chevr...orvette-z06-c7

[hotlap]

Chevy’s press release lists the 2015 Z06 ....with the available Z07 package, its capability enables:

0-60 mph acceleration in 2.95 seconds with the eight-speed automatic and 3.2 seconds with the seven-speed manual transmission
Quarter-mile times of 10.95 seconds at 127 mph with the eight-speed and 11.2 seconds at 127 mph with the seven-speed transmission a
Lateral acceleration of 1.2 g
60-0 mph braking in only 99.6 feet – the best of any production car tested by General Motors.


https://media.chevrolet.com/media/us...-z06/2015.html

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

What is the "official" top speed of the C7 Z06? Because I doubt it is over 205 officially. I doubt it is over 200 officially.

And where did the Z06 do a 10.95. Last I checked GM claimed it would do that but it could only manage low 11s when tested. I think 11.1 was the fastest it ran.

And if I'm correct, the best 0-60 it did in testing was 3.3 or 3.4. Not a 2.95.

If all this is correct then the C8 Z51 would have to beat 3 seconds 0-60, hit 11 flat in the quarter, and do about 200 MPH top speed. Considering that the C7 Stingray top speed was 187 MPH the question is whether or not the C8 with more HP, less weight, better trans and tuning, better gearing, and a better design can add 13 MPH to the outgoing Stingray's top speed and either match the C7 Z06 or beat it. That, I will admit, might be a tall order. I think it will be close. Like a 195 MPH top speed. Which isn't anything to scoff at since the ZL1 official top speed is 198. So that might be the one area where it falls short. I think the rest is a wrap.

As hotlap was kind enough to dig up.

Originally Posted by hotlap

Chevy’s press release lists the 2015 Z06 ....with the available Z07 package, its capability enables:

0-60 mph acceleration in 2.95 seconds with the eight-speed automatic and 3.2 seconds with the seven-speed manual transmission
Quarter-mile times of 10.95 seconds at 127 mph with the eight-speed and 11.2 seconds at 127 mph with the seven-speed transmission a
Lateral acceleration of 1.2 g
60-0 mph braking in only 99.6 feet – the best of any production car tested by General Motors.


https://media.chevrolet.com/media/us...-z06/2015.html

Those are the official numbers on GMs website. Those are the numbers GM is on record of saying, so to outperform the Z06 it needs to best those numbers.

I could have sworn I saw 205 as the top speed on chevys website, but I do not see it on there so I guess we can cross that off as official.

all though GM authority lists it as 205 here

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2019/07/...ntly-untested/

But those are also Z07 package numbers, so I guess we it doesn't need to best those to best the Z06 - which is where all this wording gets confusing.

GM touts the Z07 package times on the website so that is where I pulled my information for the Z06(yes my bad for not reading the* Guess it's not just Ford that needs them lol)

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by hotlap

Fastest laps lists the C7 Z06 as follows

0 - 60 mph 3.0 s
1/4 mile 11.1 s @ 127.4 mph
Top speed 315 kph (196 mph)

https://fastestlaps.com/models/chevr...orvette-z06-c7

So the ZL1 has a faster top speed than the Z06? Interesting. When they tested the ZL1 they took it to some place overseas or some shit and ran it to it's top speed. Then they ran it to top speed in the opposite direction. After both runs they divided by two to get the average which is required to get an "official" number. The first run was 202. The second run was 194. So the official top speed of the ZL1 is 198. I'm not sure if they did it with the Z06. But if the fastest it ran was 196 then I'd say they are about the same. Anyway, if the C8 Z51 manages a 195, 11 flat, and 2.95, then I'll be looking forward to shaffe telling me he was wrong. LOL!!

Just joking shaffe...kinda...

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

So the ZL1 has a faster top speed than the Z06? Interesting. When they tested the ZL1 they took it to some place overseas or some shit and ran it to it's top speed. Then they ran it to top speed in the opposite direction. After both runs they divided by two to get the average which is required to get an "official" number. The first run was 202. The second run was 194. So the official top speed of the ZL1 is 198. I'm not sure if they did it with the Z06. But if the fastest it ran was 196 then I'd say they are about the same. Anyway, if the C8 Z51 manages a 195, 11 flat, and 2.95, then I'll be looking forward to shaffe telling me he was wrong. LOL!!

Just joking shaffe...kinda...

I will happily admit I was wrong!

I think part of my problem was I mistakenly looked at the Z06/Z07 numbers and just put it on the Z06. That's because those are the numbers GM puts on the CHevy website, I just didn't pay attention to the *

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by shaffe

I will happily admit I was wrong!

I think part of my problem was I mistakenly looked at the Z06/Z07 numbers and just put it on the Z06. That's because those are the numbers GM puts on the CHevy website, I just didn't pay attention to the *

Those (2.95 s, 10.95 s) numbers were for the Z07 so I would assume the base C7 Z06 was slightly less.?.? Similar to their current implying that the C8 with Z51’s performance will be better than the base C8.

I’ll guess the new Z51 will do 2.99 s 0-60 and 11.1 s in the 1/4.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by hotlap

Those (2.95 s, 10.95 s) numbers were for the Z07 so I would assume the base C7 Z06 was slightly less.?.? Similar to their current implying that the C8 with Z51’s performance will be better than the base C8.

I’ll guess the new Z51 will do 2.99 s 0-60 and 11.1 s in the 1/4.

yep that was my mistake not paying close enough attention that those numbers were Z06 W/Z07 package.

I'd say that projection is pretty close to what it will do.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by Baldilocks01SS

Pretty sure the C8 is going to come in slightly heavier than the C7.

The C8 is around 100-200 pounds lighter than the C7.

Originally Posted by hotlap

Those (2.95 s, 10.95 s) numbers were for the Z07 so I would assume the base C7 Z06 was slightly less.?.? Similar to their current implying that the C8 with Z51’s performance will be better than the base C8.

I’ll guess the new Z51 will do 2.99 s 0-60 and 11.1 s in the 1/4.

Originally Posted by shaffe

yep that was my mistake not paying close enough attention that those numbers were Z06 W/Z07 package.

I'd say that projection is pretty close to what it will do.

I'm gonna be a little bolder and say it will do a 2.95 0-60 and a 10.8-11.0 quarter with a 200MPH top speed. I say the Base will be about 3.1-3.3 0-60 and 11.2-11.4 quarter with a 193MPH top speed.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

The C8 is around 100-200 pounds lighter than the C7.


I'm gonna be a little bolder and say it will do a 2.95 0-60 and a 10.8-11.0 quarter with a 200MPH top speed. I say the Base will be about 3.1-3.3 0-60 and 11.2-11.4 quarter with a 193MPH top speed.

I Think the C8 is actually going to be heavier than the C7.

Chevy's website lists the C7 base curb weight as 3,298.

Google lists them as

3,347 lb (Base)
3,444 lb (Z51)
3,523 lb (Z06)
3,560 lb (ZR1)

If the C8 is 3366 dry, then with fluids it's probably going to weigh around 3500ish.

[Rodan]

Whelp... looks like the first public C8 crash is up on YT...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=jTcjSyujMU8



Not sure how to embed video here.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by Rodan

Whelp... looks like the first public C8 crash is up on YT...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=jTcjSyujMU8

Not sure how to embed video here.

That was a manufacturer owned C8. I'm not sure what they were doing or where they were going or what happened that caused the accident. But I assume they were out for a PR event or going out to test and track the or something. From the looks of it, it seems that the Vette driver was at fault. But this is all speculation.

[lt4camaro]

Originally Posted by shaffe

I Think the C8 is actually going to be heavier than the C7.

Chevy's website lists the C7 base curb weight as 3,298.

Google lists them as

3,347 lb (Base)
3,444 lb (Z51)
3,523 lb (Z06)
3,560 lb (ZR1)

If the C8 is 3366 dry, then with fluids it's probably going to weigh around 3500ish.

Yes 3366 dry weight, add about 160 to 175 to that for all the liguids = 3520 to 3530 aprox versus 3298 for a base C7 manual trans car . Chevy never gave dry weight on the C7's