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Old 11-08-2019, 06:35 AM   #4411
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It might get beaten absolutely. The only problem is that the base 500 isn't a 10.9 car but you already know that.
Yea it's definitely a low to mid 11s car... mostly trolling with that one lol
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Old 11-08-2019, 08:23 AM   #4412
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It might get beaten absolutely. The only problem is that the base 500 isn't a 10.9 car but you already know that.
You're right. From the Vegas event it looks to be an 11.1-11.2 car.
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Old 11-08-2019, 08:59 AM   #4413
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Carbon Fiber TP quicker than the ZL1-1LE, yes, but at what price (especially considering what the average buyers may be paying. Slightly under msrp to over)
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So even thought the zl1 1le m6 is allegedly quicker than the zl1 m6 (according to gm and car and drivers tests), you think the automatic version of the zl1 1le will be significantly slower than the auto zl1? Interesting, I'd like to hear your logic.
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Old 11-08-2019, 09:03 AM   #4414
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Obviously lol
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Old 11-08-2019, 09:16 AM   #4415
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It might get beaten absolutely. The only problem is that the base 500 isn't a 10.9 car but you already know that.
We've already established that the magazines represent what these cars are in the closest manner. I'm not going by what they did at the press event or what Evans ran. I'm going by what we will see when it gets to MT or CD. We used those same rules for the GT and SS. We even counted the Cars.com run as official when the GT was faster. So in like manner, if the GT500 ends up running a slower time than the C8 Z51, then will you acknowledge that? Or will you have some excuse and revert back to "10.6" talk?
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Old 11-08-2019, 01:12 PM   #4416
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Without quoting all the posts on this last page.

C8 VS GT500 - I think real world, we will definitely see back and forth where one comes out on top vs the other. That mid engine setup really gives the C8 a huge advantage.

Magazine tests I think they will probably come close in terms of acceleration, maybe edge to the C8.

GT500 vs RE. I do expect the GT500 to best it in 0-60 and 1/4 in magazine tests. MT only got the RE to an 11.8, if they can't beat that with the GT500 that's pretty bad IMO.

GT500 vs ZL1 - it should beat it, BUT they have gotten good times out of the ZL1, so magazine test # wise the GT500 has it's work cut out for it.

What I would really like to see is them test the ZL1 A10, RE and GT500 all same day same drivers, then test the GT500 CFTP and ZLE A10.

IF the GT500 CFTP comes out on top against the ZLE then I would like to see it tested against the C8 Z51
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it has more power...its available power is like a set kof double Ds (no matter where your face is... theyre everywhere) it has the suspension to mame it matter...(
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Old 11-08-2019, 01:16 PM   #4417
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Without quoting all the posts on this last page.

C8 VS GT500 - I think real world, we will definitely see back and forth where one comes out on top vs the other. That mid engine setup really gives the C8 a huge advantage.

Magazine tests I think they will probably come close in terms of acceleration, maybe edge to the C8.

GT500 vs RE. I do expect the GT500 to best it in 0-60 and 1/4 in magazine tests. MT only got the RE to an 11.8, if they can't beat that with the GT500 that's pretty bad IMO.

GT500 vs ZL1 - it should beat it, BUT they have gotten good times out of the ZL1, so magazine test # wise the GT500 has it's work cut out for it.

What I would really like to see is them test the ZL1 A10, RE and GT500 all same day same drivers, then test the GT500 CFTP and ZLE A10.

IF the GT500 comes out on top against the CFTP then I would like to see it tested against the C8 Z51
Very interesting. I think all those comparisons need to happen. Not sure I understand that very last line though. Did you mean if the ZLE A10 comes out on top of the CFTP....?
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Old 11-08-2019, 01:17 PM   #4418
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Very interesting. I think all those comparisons need to happen. Not sure I understand that very last line though. Did you mean if the ZLE A10 comes out on top of the CFTP....?
hahaha I'll go back and fix it.

Meant if the CFTP comes out on top against the ZLE then compare it to the C8 Z51
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Old 11-08-2019, 01:24 PM   #4419
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hahaha I'll go back and fix it.

Meant if the CFTP comes out on top against the ZLE then compare it to the C8 Z51
How much faster do you think the cftp will be around the track compared to the R??.
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Old 11-08-2019, 07:53 PM   #4420
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hahaha I'll go back and fix it.

Meant if the CFTP comes out on top against the ZLE then compare it to the C8 Z51
I don't think the c8 z51 will beat the zle around a track but I could be wrong.

I also expect the c8 to be able to beat the gt500 in a 1/4 on street surfaces but on a prepped surface the gt500 should win if it hooks and on a roll race it'll smash the c8.
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Old 11-08-2019, 09:15 PM   #4421
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Without quoting all the posts on this last page.

C8 VS GT500 - I think real world, we will definitely see back and forth where one comes out on top vs the other. That mid engine setup really gives the C8 a huge advantage.

Magazine tests I think they will probably come close in terms of acceleration, maybe edge to the C8.
I have noticed that many of the results of the tests done by the journals in terms of acceleration and 1/4 of a mile comply with the official numbers provided by GM (Motortrend achieved 2.8 secs from 0-60 and 11.1 in 1/4 of mile), but in the lateral acceleration they were not even close, Motortrend achieved 1.04G while official numbers indicate that it can do 1.25G (https://www.motor1.com/news/380820/2020-chevy-corvette- performance-figures /), I think it is necessary to take into account that many magazines were taken by surprise by the handling of the C8 and its possible intentional understeer, so until they get used to how this car is, I don't think that they will be able to take out all the "Average" performance that the C8 can offer against the "Average" performance of the GT500
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Old 11-09-2019, 09:26 AM   #4422
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“ The engine has a dry-sump oil system with three scavenge pumps that can cope with the demands of sustained lateral acceleration of 1.25G”

Please tell me this is not the line you interpreted as gm stating it could handle 1.25g’s in the corners.
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Old 11-09-2019, 01:37 PM   #4423
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You're right. From the Vegas event it looks to be an 11.1-11.2 car.
This video has been up for like a week.
https://youtu.be/o0BK4lr_-t0
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This video has been up for like a week.
https://youtu.be/o0BK4lr_-t0
I look at it this way.
  • There were some advanced drivers (Stangmode, his friend in the video, Billy Johnson, Evan Smith) who can definitely break into the 10s in the GT500
  • Ford’s official spec is 0-60: 3.3s, 1/4 mi: 10.7s, 0-100-0: 10.6s
  • GM’s official specs for 2020 Stingray are 0-60: 2.9s 1/4 mi: 11.2s
  • Some of the same journalists who were running 11.1 and 11.2 in 2020 Stingray were running 11.4 - 11.7 in GT500

Both cars are crazy fast. Get the one you like most and do your best.
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