07-03-2015, 08:24 PM | #1 |
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Water meth question
So my tuner is out of town for the holiday. I have my meth kit collecting dust on my floor. Can I put it on and still run my car with out advertise side effects? Im currently supercharged and cammed. I know I won't get full potential until tuned but will I see any gains with running a small jet untill I can get it tuned?
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07-03-2015, 08:54 PM | #2 |
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Why not just have it all hooked up and not use it until your tuner can tune for it?
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07-03-2015, 10:21 PM | #3 |
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Because I have ZERO patient's and a few races coming up.
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07-04-2015, 01:48 AM | #4 |
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I would advise you didn't but that's just me... maybe others will have input.
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07-04-2015, 01:54 AM | #5 |
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Well from what I gather you can use it on cars with out being tuned for it and still see gains. It's a snow performance kit..
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07-04-2015, 02:57 AM | #6 |
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Are you utilizing the meth kit to add additional fuel for an increase in boost, or are you using it for the cooling effect? If you are using it as a fuel adder, then you definitely need to be tuned for it.
I run the Alky Control kit at 100% Meth, utilizing their smallest nozzle. I use it solely for the octane boost, as a safety. I am not tuned for it. On the dyno, it added an additional 20RWHP. |
07-04-2015, 07:43 AM | #7 |
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Using it for cooling. I have a LSA blower and I figured it has to help cool it down. I'll be 50/50 mix boost juice.
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07-05-2015, 09:50 PM | #8 |
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Anyone else have any input?
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07-05-2015, 10:17 PM | #9 |
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The only downside to installing the kit without tuning for it is the car will running a bit rich during WOT.
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07-06-2015, 01:02 AM | #10 |
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That's fine. I'm a little lean on top end anyways. I'm still on stock ss pump with no BAP.
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07-06-2015, 04:08 PM | #11 |
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As others have said, the answer is no, its not necessary, the only problem with not tuning it, is all the power you leave on the table. You will run way rich at WOT, like i'm guessing 9's but that's just a guess.You may have some drivability issues in transition to WOT.
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07-08-2015, 12:42 PM | #13 |
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Well at WOT I'm lean. My fuel pump is maxed out and my tuner can't get me in for another 3 weeks. I see AFRs around 12.3 ish near redline.
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07-08-2015, 03:53 PM | #14 |
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In that case you should try it you might be closer than you think, nothing to it but to do it, I installed all the performance parts on my car only thing I didn't do was the actual tuning, you should be able to install the meth kit if you are at least decent with wiring, like a car stereo or something
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